As promised, here is the first part of my research on the Illuminati family bloodlines. This thread will focus on the research done by Fritz Springmeier. This information is being presented here first before being sent via e-mail to my family and friends. There is more to come.
In this video series, Fritz Springmeier gives a seminar covering the thirteen Illuminati bloodlines in detail. He gave this seminar some years ago for the Prophecy Club, and his approach to these bloodlines, mind control and programming, and the New World Order have the Biblical approach of a man dedicated to Jesus Christ and who is Christian.
However, you don’t have to be Christian to learn from him about the Satanic Bloodlines. You don’t have to share his religious views to understand that he speaks the truth regarding certain families whose history and bloodlines go back thousands of years. I realize that not everyone is Christian, but that will not deter me from sharing this man’s incredible wealth of knowledge. I also believe in many of the theories and statements of David Icke, whom many of you know is not a religious man and who shuns any and all religions. David Icke and Fritz Springmeier actually represent two opposite sides of the spectrum in some ways, and yet, they are in unison in other ways. Just because I don’t agree with every personal point of view of David Icke doesn’t mean that I cannot or will not listen to him, hear him out, and consider what he has to say and what he has learned and personally experienced.
Seeking the truth means keeping an open mind.
I suggest that each person listening and viewing these videos keep whatever religious and spiritual beliefs and values you each hold dear, while simultaneously focusing on what Fritz says in terms of how these families operate. Adding Fritz Springmeier’s seminar and book to the outspoken natures of David Icke and Alex Jones, and what each of them has revealed, you will find a common thread with all three men. I will not tell you what that common thread is, but rather let each of you discover it for yourselves. These men do not agree on everything, but they do agree on the existence of this extremely powerful group of hidden individuals, they acknowledge what this group has done in the past, and they openly speak out on what this group continues to do today.
I strongly encourage people who wish to learn about the Illuminati (the 13 Satanic bloodlines); the New World Order; what is being done to control politicians, political events, world economies; the creation and spread of diseases; the mind control techniques that are used to manipulate individuals and the masses; the manipulation of the music and entertainment industries; and some of the industries and religions of the world that have been affected by this powerful and hidden group, to please keep an open mind and not block information from coming in just because you don’t feel comfortable with the religious, political or ethnic background of the source.
Keep in mind that messengers take many forms. Not all of them are pleasing to the eye. Not all of them are slim or have great physiques. Not all of them are excellent speakers. Not all of them have good speaking voices. Liars are often most pleasing to eye, are slim, have good bodies, are excellent orators and have very pleasant voices. Certain politicians, public figures and actors fall into this category. Do not be deceived by them.
On a final note, before I begin, I want to mention that it has taken me several months to watch these videos and summarize them briefly for you. The information is intense and takes several viewings to fully absorb and understand. Some of it sounds so outrageous that it seems stranger than fiction. Then again, sometimes the truth really is stranger than fiction. Some of the information will make some people angry, or at the very least, uncomfortable. Many of the things we’ve been taught in school, in church and by society are going to be challenged by this man. This is not going to be a pleasant journey, but it will be an enlightening one. I guarantee it.
Part I - Fritz introduces himself, his background and gives a gentle warning that what he’s going to say is going to make many people uncomfortable, and that he’s not going to be politically correct. He mentions having gone to West Point and dropping out after his second year. Instead of obeying the military machine, he chose to obey God and seek the truth. His journey has led to this seminar and the book to which I will share and post links at a later time.
http://youtu.be/k73Q2_f4vKU
Part 2 - Fritz discusses the power of symbols, citing a particular example from a former friend who had worked high up in the Illuminati, and who was murdered the day before visiting Fritz. He also breaks down the various ways of seeing and defining God and the choices each person makes when reaching his or her personal view or definition of God. The video ends with Fritz about to explain the purpose of this discussion.
http://youtu.be/rIL1rHcOI-o
Part 3 - Fritz explains why his seminar begins with the lengthy discussion of God and how He is seen and defined in different ways. “The good Lord called me to do three things: Expose evil. Give hope. Call people back to the Word of God.” He speaks against offering flippant hope or exposing evil without offering people hope. “There are better answers.” He discusses the unavoidable problem of logic as it pertains to religion and our “spiritual environment” and says “every mathematical, scientific and philosophical system has vagueness and contradictions within their principles.”
“All philosophy and mathematical systems have paradoxes. . .”
“Evil is not out of control. . .All evil can be turned to good. . .”
He discusses the power of choice that God gave mankind and then moves on to discuss “trauma based mind control” collectively and individually. “We’re traumatized, and we’re traumatized for a reason - to program us a lie.” Fritz also discusses the true shape of paradise (which he refers to as “the new Jerusalem”) as it was revealed to him by the Spirit. He contrasts this shape with the “world system that Satan has set up” - information also given to him by revelation from God and confirmed by other Brothers. We are gradually working our way towards the topic of Illuminati. Be patient!
Part 4 - Fritz discusses a man named Norman Dodd, and I’m going to provide some links to information about him later. Norman Dodd was a banker, and he spent a great deal of time around the ‘movers and shakers’ of the world. As a result, he got to know them and they thought he was one of them. He learned some very interesting things, one of which was the world system that was set up and in place. Fritz shows us a diagram of this world system. If you’ve been learning about the Illuminati, the symbol shown will be familiar to you. That symbol has a mirror image, and Fritz goes into the specifics of how it’s set up. By contrast, there is another shape discussed that represents God’s universe and that is referenced in Scripture, according to Fritz.
Gnostic religions are discussed, including Mormons, Jehovas Witnesses, Masons, etc.
The means by which religions are created and their hidden structures are also discussed. This is going to make some people very uncomfortable. Unfortunately, I believe Fritz is telling the truth and is being honest. It’s a bitter bill to swallow to be told (or to discover) that one’s religion was created by the Illuminati. That’s not the same as saying God was created by the Illuminati. God is not religion, and religion is not God.
http://youtu.be/mwfnTQOSAbk
Here’s link on Frederick William Franz 1893-1992
http://www.watchthetower.net/fred2.html
Here’s a link on Norman Dodd (I’ll post a video of this interview later)
http://www.realityzone.com/hiddenagenda2.html
Part 5 - Mystery Religions and New Age Religions are covered. The background history of the Illuminati is also covered. “Freemasonry is a universal religion.” “. . . if you are selected as a Freemason, you may be able to go on and be one of the Illuminati.” Numerous American presidents who were Freemasons are mentioned. Years ago, a friend of mine whose father was a Freemason told me that in order to become an American president, a person has to be a Freemason. At the time, I found that strange and asked her why. She didn’t know why; she only knew it was the truth.
http://youtu.be/ze308A2P6Y0
Part 6 - “The three main channels through which the preparation for the new age is going on might be regarded as the church, the masonic fraternity and the educational field.” “We’re going to get them in the churches to bring in this new age, but not everybody goes to church. So we’ll teach them in the fraternities, but not everybody goes to a masonic lodge. So then the safety net for it all is education.”
Fritz goes on to explain how we’re in a period of what is called the “externalization of the hierarchy.” This essentially refers to the practice of taking what was once done in secret, a hundred of years ago, and making it a part of our basic, ‘normal’ society. He shows some examples. By working the symbols and occult suggestions or practices into our society and culture, we don’t question it or think about it.
Fritz notes that Freemasons control our libraries and our school system. Pay close attention to the 4:19 mark referencing barcodes - on children’s foreheads. We also get an example of how American history has been rewritten or “tweaked” as Fritz puts it. The Boston Tea Party may not have been what so many of us who went to American schools were taught it was. Guess who writes and controls our history books. . .
Part 7 - We learn about Fritz’s extensive historical research starting with this video segment. The information is extremely detailed and rather ‘dry’ in its delivery, but keep in mind that this man is relaying a vast amount of information, much of it from his memory and not from notes.
Fritz briefly shows a map of the Freemason lodges in the U.S. The Freemasons carried out a large share of the American Revolution, and 33 of the 35 signers of Declaration of Independence were Free Masons. Many fraternal organizations, religious groups and religions in the United States have been started by the Free Masons. Fritz mentions an example of one of the many “controlled struggles” created by the Illuminati, and the fact that Vatican officials each have their own secret Masonic membership numbers.
He touches upon the top 13 Illuminati families - also known as the Satanic Bloodlines. Pay close attention to the names; some of them will be very familiar to you. I will post a link to Fritz Springmeier’s book about these bloodlines at end of this video series.
He touches upon the Civil War and 3 key men of that time: Abraham Lincoln, Ulysses Grant and John Brown. The Illuminati were behind the Civil War, and Fritz explains why.
http://youtu.be/qCGTXvB-c0A
Part 8 - Fritz elaborates on the interconnected Illuminati families, and he connects Illuminati family members from the Civil War era to the Vietnam War era. He also explains the common denominator between both wars and why they were created. Our history books never revealed the information that this man is sharing, and I personally believe he’s telling the truth. He has done an extensive amount of research and cites his sources in one of his books, which I will provide a link to after this video series has been presented.
The Vietnam War involved creating a drug culture in the United States, with portions of the U.S. Army helping with full cooperation.
Illuminati family ties are discussed extensively. The amount of information is vast and detailed. Fritz rarely need his notes and seems to rely on his built in knowledge. Many of these videos will require more than one viewing in order to absorb all the information presented.
http://youtu.be/XYePBPU29tU
Part 9 - Fritz continues with “some of the most difficult information.”
“Prominent bloodlines of the Mystery Religions - they keep their power and wealth by dynastic intermarriage. They maintain as low of a profile as possible and use fronts for legitimacy.”
The Rothchilds are briefly discussed. (David Icke has mentioned this family repeatedly and refers to them as Reptilian. The Illuminati are referred to as “the 13 Satanic Bloodlines” by Wes Penre, “Reptilians” by David Icke, and “Globalists” by Alex Jones. While each of these men use a different term or phrase, they are all referring to the exact same thing!)
The U.S. military handbook for chaplains is discussed. Witchcraft and The Church of Satan are included.
The basic structure of the Illuminati is discussed along with its history (dating from 1776). As a side note, the American Revolutionary War was fought in 1776, which is the year the country of America was founded.
“The Satanic Brotherhood and the Illuminati are essentially one organization. . .”
“. . .the Illuminati is technically gnostic dualism; they believe your good deeds must balance your bad deeds.”
Biblical scripture is cited regarding Babylon: “Babylon the Great” and “Babylon the Mystery Religions.”
“All that were slain upon the earth are the fault of this mother of harlots.”
“. . . a conspiracy that involves all the nations of the earth.”
Part 10 - Fritz explains the history of the Pharisees an how they were an offshoot of the Mystery Religions; how the Talmud ranks higher than the Torah in Judaism; and how the Rothchilds came by their family name.
Gnostic knowledge is discussed: “Throughout the world, Satan’s empire is built on gnostic knowledge,” which means hidden knowledge. Fritz explains how hidden knowledge provides and instant power base. The terms “occult,” “esoteric” and “archaic” are touched upon.
Illuminati are gnostics; they believe their good deeds must balance their bad deeds.
Satanic ritual abuse is discussed, including signing an oath to Satan in human blood, as well as human infant sacrifice. A certain castle is discussed in which “high level Mother of Darkness” rituals take place in the secret basement.
Vampirism is discussed, including getting an adrenaline high from drinking the blood of sacrificed victims. Al Gore’s reported hemophiliac condition is stated to be something else entirely, according to Fritz.
The basic U.S. policy process is touched upon and continues in the next segment. Essentially, the most important and influential key decisions are made by the most influential and key individuals, who come from the key 13 Satanic bloodline families, and also from 500 elite families world wide. Those decisions are passed on to fraternal organizations and “shadowy elite groups.” The decisions then get passed down to the national level, which would include the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations).
http://youtu.be/tq9YS3R023w
Part 11 - Fritz touches upon the group called “Majesty 12” which refers to a “group of wise men to rule in the New World” so to speak. This group makes many decisions, but because it cannot make all the decisions necessary, it passes the power to make other decisions down to the next group. This pattern continues, as Fritz explains this power structure in a chart. He then explains how all of this is carried out by creating an example, starting with the wishes of the Illuminati. The end result is that the Illuminati get what they wanted. Covert enforcers are the Mafia, IRS and FBI, Masonry and Fraternities.
Illuminati area boards are discussed, as is the “twilight world” of connections between the Illuminati and organized crime. (There is bloodline intermingling of mafia and Illuminati families). Fritz also mentions - but doesn’t have time to elaborate on - the Illuminati control of health care. (Now there’s a scary thought!)
Fritz also briefly touches upon the Illuminati control over the world’s grains and foods as well as the music industry. (Personal note: There isn’t enough time for him to elaborate on all of these topics, so it is up to each individual to do his or her own research on those areas of personal interest.)
The man who started the Jehovas Witnesses was a Knights Templar Freemason and was ritually murdered by the Illuminati on Halloween, according to Fritz.
Fritz cites some Illuminati family members and shows pictures of them.
http://youtu.be/tdT2mB8gFxY
Part 12 - Mind control and programming is discussed. This segment of the video series is among the most intense and disturbing. Fritz discusses Marilyn Monroe (“the first presidential sex-model-slave that they allowed the public to see”), Jane Mansfield, Sammy Davis, Jr. , among others. The Kennedy’s and Rothchilds are discussed briefly. The hand sign of Satan is discussed and how it can be used to trigger those who have been programmed.
Adolf Hitler: His grandmother was impregnated by one of the Rothchilds in Vienna. Hitler’s father was paid money to change his last name.
Regarding mind control: “It is a very sophisticated combination of every mind control technique that has ever been thought up.” Multiple techniques are often used as a means of programming and controlling a person.
Fritz discusses how trauma is used in mind control, and how it usually starts with a child. He discusses “amnesia walls” and the shattering of the human mind, both techniques used to program a person and create a personality. Hypnotic cues are used to summon or bring out the desired specific personality. He uses a co-author and friend of his who was a victim as an example and shares her story.
The favorite occupation of the Illuminati programmers is discussed and how it relates to finding and using “the most legitimate” and “perfect front.” (Hint: you won’t be at all surprised)
Part 13 - This is another extremely difficult segment to watch and absorb. Fritz demonstrates how the mind of a multiple personality is different from that of a normal person. He explains how photographic memories are achieved in children - you “electronically scar the brain stem” before creating trauma to split the personality.
Making the perfect spy or assassin, a perfect front is needed; Fritz explains why the Amish are the ideal group selected for this task. The programming is started during childhood. “Back up amnesia” is explained.
“Once you get the programming set into a person, by the time they’re a teenager, then in fifteen minutes in a back room, you can program them for a mission.” Fritz cites the Charles Bronson movie “Telefon” as an example of how this works.
Fritz estimates that about 2 million people in America are under total mind control. Some of these people may be the suicide bombers and extremely violent people we hear about in the daily news. He mentions that programming can make people have a dual nature - a Dr. Jekyll/ Mr. Hyde effect.
http://youtu.be/ZNAS_I73nfc
Part 14 - Fritz talks about his personal experiences with some of the mind controlled slaves. He discusses the effects of therapy (or rather lack thereof) on these people. Witnessing certain things inspired Fritz to intervene to help these people. “They have tremendous needs in many different ways. People don’t understand how sophisticated this is. . .For everything that you’re going to flippantly come up with, I’m sure that they have thought of at least a dozen if not many more ways to circumvent you being able to undo the programming.”
Fritz mentions how quoting Scripture can trigger ‘alters’ and cites examples of how such programming works. Bible verses are used to control people by triggering personalities to come forward, or to mentally scramble words that someone else is saying to the alter personality. In other words, Illuminati programmers use Scripture to program people.
Fritz also mentions how legitimate clergy members and preachers are deliberately singled out and set up for failure and destruction. It’s called “The Black Widow Program.” He attempts to say the name of Jim Baker (from the 1980s) as he refers to an example of a preacher who may have deliberately been led astray or set up for failure and humiliation. Jim and Tammy Faye Baker were famous (or infamous) for their public admission of personal scandal within the church.
Films such as “The Wizard of Oz” and “Alice in Wonderland” are mentioned as mind control programming themes. Disney films “have been some of the primary films used to program some of these mind control victims.” (This is highly interesting in terms of Michael Jackson and his love for the film and character of Peter Pan, and his refusal or inability to grow up and mature in certain ways; Illuminati and MKUltra programming and interference may be part of this, in addition to Michael’s sense of having missed out on having a real childhood.)
The overall effects of mind control is discussed and how it affects the United States.
Fritz discusses alien abductions and how they relate to mind control. He cites a specific example. “Area 51 is being used to program a lot of people with this alien programming.” Reptilian eyes in human beings are shown in American magazine photographs. (Another video featuring Fritz discussing this topic will be provided separately.)
http://youtu.be/0y6p-zvHWEg
Part 15 - Fritz discusses current events and how they relate to the Illuminati and the New World Order. These events would have been from the early to mid 1990s. However, they are still relevant today. The Illuminati have achieved everything they have set out to achieve. He also discussed their long range plans. FEMA (concentration) camps are discussed, as is the carefully timed release of technology. Please watch and form your own conclusions.
http://youtu.be/Ipw4E7BPtPc
Part 16 - Fritz discusses the Mars colony and ‘is there life on Mars’ concept. He mentions how strange it is that all space craft that have gone to Mars have ALL malfunctioned and how all the data sent back to us remains inconclusive. Translation: There IS life on Mars, and the Illuminati know it and have somehow been a part of it - and want it concealed for now.
The “Three Lists” are discussed. These lists are on computers and have already been distributed. Fritz cites his source for this information as an inspector for the Joint Chiefs of Staff for these concentration camps.
The video ends in discussion about God, the Rapture, Salvation and prophecy. “Time is very short.”
“The physical preparations don’t mean anything unless you’ve made the spiritual preparations.”
From a different seminar or discussion group, Fritz discusses the concept of reptilian entities, such as where they came from, how they were formed, etc. This is one area where he would be in almost total agreement with David Icke:
Fritz provides some additional information regarding the Illuminati families and their bloodlines, as well as demonstrates his work as a very detailed historian who has sought the truth - and dared to speak it and write it. Since these videos have been released, he has been falsely imprisoned for allegedly being involved in a robbery, based on circumstantial evidence. I’ll provide more information on that later. He was released in March 2011 and is keeping a very low profile.
Why am I not surprised that this was done to him?
The intro to this first video segment is very long. You might want to take care of things around your kitchen, living room, etc, until it passes. It’s about 2 minutes of time that really doesn’t serve any purpose, but afterwards, the interview really gets going. Also, some of the background music can be a bit distracting at times, but just stay focused on the messages.
According to the Federal Bureau of Prisons Inmate Locator, which I have provided a link to, Fritz Artz Springmeier was released on March 25, 2011. Please see link below:
We have to stand up and fight for those people who have stood up for and fought for the truth. Personally, I do believe Fritz was framed, and I’m not surprised that he has had to go through this ordeal as punishment for his outspoken books and seminars. I’m sure David Icke can fully relate to and empathize with this man. God bless Fritz Springmeier and David Icke, and all those who dare to think, question, and speak the truth!
With love, Carmen
Last Edited by on Jul 17, 2011 8:17 PM
Bless you Carmen for posting this information on the 13 Illuminati (Satanic) Bloodlines! It strikes me funny that the number of satanic bloodlines is an unlucky number. I believe whole heartedly in your statements, and most assuredly these words: “Just because I don’t agree with every personal point of view of David Icke doesn’t mean that I cannot or will not listen to him, hear him out, and consider what he has to say and what he has learned and personally experienced.
Seeking the truth means keeping an open mind.” Some people that I know won’t allow the Harry Potter books, or will not look at certain information that contradicts their religion. I feel it is imperative that we consider all available information. How else would we know what to look out for? The devil is waging a battle and we need to get in the middle of it for the good of humanity.
There is a song we sing in our church that has the phrase: I went to the enemy’s camp and I ~ took back what he stole from me, took back what he stole from me, took back what he stole from me. He’s under my feet, under my feet, under my feet. Ohhh he’s under my feet!
Well… here is the video that I found on you tube:PLEASE WATCH AND LISTEN. :O)
It will take me a while to get through this information. Thanks Carmen!
Last Edited by on Jul 17, 2011 8:03 PM
Hi Mar, and thank you for the video you posted and for your comments. Yes, the material I've posted will take quite some time to fully digest and understand. I suggest not trying to get through it all at once because it will be overwhelming. We each have our own tolerance levels for the amount of disturbing and unpleasant information we can absorb and think about. Some of the information Fritz presents can make a person feel uncomfortable just for the fact that it contradicts what many of us were taught in school. Understanding what is going on in the world and behind the scenes, and how the Illuminati plays a role in past and current events, requires doing what Yoda, the Jedi master instructed young Luke Skywalker to do: 'You must unlearn what you have learned."
Unlearning what we each have learned since childhood, and realizing that no matter who we are, we have all been lied to, manipulated and brain washed to some degree or another since childhood is not easy to accept. But accept it, we must. Once we accept this truth, we can move forward to unlearn some of the things we've been taught by 'the system,' and then we can open our minds to learning and absorbing the truth.
Fritz's seminar and information will challenge EVERY SINGLE PERSON'S BELIEF SYSTEMS, one way or another - unless that person is a member of the Illuminati, in which case that person will know Fritz is telling the truth.
What a nice way to silence someone, aye? Just falsely accuse them of a crime and throw them in the slammer (aka jail) and let them rot for however long their sentence happens to be. And if it takes lack of direct proof - or circumstantial evidence - to justify it, then so be it. It seems to me that Fritz's only 'crime' was teaching, enlightening and AWAKENING THE MASSES!
My pastor, Greg Boyd, is one of the top theologians in the country. Some, indeed, many of his topics revolve around just what we are talking about here. Spiritual warfare against satin and the satanic.
You can skip the very first part of these videos as it is church business. I appreciated this video that is a reminder of why we are here fighting for Michael and why Jesus was here fighting for humanity:
Empire of a Baby - START AT 1:59 PLEASE:
http://whchurch.org/blog/3511/empire-of-the-baby
Also this VIDEO ON SPIRITUAL WARFARE IS GREAT. Go to 24:14 and to the end:
Just wanted to add that I posted the article by Paul Blizard as background info on the former Watchtower president, Fred Franz. I need to point out that this is ONE person's opinion and personal experience of this man. Mr. Franz is not here to defend himself, but I do find it very interesting that someone who personally saw and interacted with Fred Franz can say things that are awfully similar to what Fritz Springmeier says. If the Jehovas Witness faith, among others, is backed by, created by, or influenced by the Illuminati, then we can see where some problems may eventually surface. I also want to state that I do not judge or criticize people who have chosen other faiths. I'm sure Christianity has also been corrupted or 'touched' by the Illuminati somewhere along the way. THEY have interfered with essentially everything.
I also want to mention that this thread was not intended to be a religious thread, but rather a presentation of another angle or point of view in terms of discussing the Illuminati and their influence. We can look at them as Reptilians (as David Icke does), or as Globalists (as Alex Jones does), or as the 13 Satanic Bloodlines (as Fritz Springmeier and Wes Penre refer to THEM). This thread is meant to allow people to look at this powerful group of hidden individuals and families through another set of eyes.
I did not intend for this thread to focus on Christianity or any particular faith. I did not intend for it to become a thread about 'spiritual warfare.' Spiritual warfare is a good topic, but this thread was intended to bring another point of view regarding the Illuminati. I hope those who read it will combine ALL the philosophies mentioned (David Icke's, Alex Jones's, Wes Penre's and Fritz Springmeier's) to get a greater overall view of this topic and the accompanying issues involved.
My future articles, videos and links pertaining to this thread and its topic will remain focused on Mr. Springmeier and some of the key people he has referenced as valuable sources of information to him.
Yes Mar, Michael was most likely a victim of MK-Ultra, Monarch or other Illuminati programming at some point in his life. There are some thread topics from long ago in which we touched upon this topic, but I don't know how far back they go. You'll have to do some digging. Maybe someone can give them a 'bump' so those who missed those discussions can read them. :)
Much love, Carmen
Edited to add: In discussing the Illuminati, while we may not want to focus on religion, we are almost forced to enter that arena due to the fact that THEY are Satanists and worship Satan and practice dark arts or black magic. Satan is real to THEM, and the acknowledgment of Satan means the acknowledgment of God, so religion does enter into the discussion of Illuminati and their bloodlines on some level.
Last Edited by on Jul 18, 2011 10:32 AM
I do understand what you are saying about discussing the Illuminati and religion. I know we do not want to offend or upset anyone's sensitivities to their religious background, or in the case of an atheist perspective, to their lack of a religious perspective. I of course am Christian and can only understand the Illuminati from the Christian perspective, as I am not familiar with any other religions inner workings and beliefs, but I do know that some religions do not believe in the same Satan that a Christian does.
To discuss the illuminati, (or Satan worshipers) for me, means understanding Satan from the perspective of the Illuminati, which I feel is close if not the same Satan. Of course if I did not believe in any religion I would not believe in Satan, and therefore that the Illuminati existed. Does that make since?
"Satan appears within multiple belief systems. Unfortunately, there is a common presumption that all of these Satanic figures must indeed be the same being, despite the fact that each religion has its own very unique perspective and description of him."
"Judaism" "In Hebrew, satan means adversary. The satan of the Old Testament is a description, not a proper name (and thus why I do not capitalize it here). This is a figure that works with God's full permission, tempting believers to doubt their faith, separating the true believers from those who just pay lip service."
I did find a website through About.com that tells what Satan means in relation to each major perspective religion.
PLEASE READ THE MEANING OF SATAN IN OTHER RELIGIONS: http://altreligion.about.com/od/mythologicalfigures/a/satan.htm
"Christianity" "The Christian view of Satan is a very tangled web. The name only appears in the New Testament a handful of times. The most well known is the scene in Matthew where he tempts Jesus to turn away from God and worship him instead. While one could certainly read this as Satan setting himself up as a rival to God (as Christians commonly understand him to be doing), it is just as easy to read this as Satan carrying out his Old Testament role of tempter and tester of faith."
"Despite his brief Biblical appearances, Satan evolved into a truly malevolent and evil creature in the minds of Christians, a former angel rebelling against God who tortures the souls of everyone not saved through Jesus. He is twisted, corrupted, sadistic, sinful and corporeal, the complete opposite of spirituality and goodness."
"Part of the Christian perception of Satan comes from equating a number of other Biblical figures with Satan, including Lucifer, the dragon, the serpent, Beelzebub, and Leviathan, as well as the prince of the air and the prince of this world." This is the Satan I think of when I think of the illuminati. Others may think of Satan as in the Judaism religion or the Islam, etc.
I guess I do not know how to go about talking about Satanists and their worship without bringing my Christian reality concerning Satan into the mix.
I do want to point out that a person can be an atheist, or agnostic (I think that's the correct term), or can be someone who believes in a higher power without necessarily using the term or name "God", and STILL understand that the Illuminati exists. You don't have to believe in God or Satan to acknowledge the existence of the Illuminati (aka the Globalists). These powerful families, their bloodlines and their servants or minions exist, whether we believe in them or not, and whether or not we have any religious or spiritual beliefs.
THEY exist, regardless as to what our personal religious and/or spiritual values may be.
Thank you again, Mar, for sharing your thoughts and your own personal perspective.
The following video is the supplemental information to Fritz Springmeier's reference to Norman Dodd. I had mentioned that I would present this video at a later time. The time has come.
After watching it last night, I strongly suggest that others who wish to better understand the connection between tax exempt foundations; the financially powerful and elite (aka the Illuminati families involved); the American government's involvement with these foundations; how wars can be created and how the educational systems in American and abroad have been manipulated would understand these things better after watching the following presentation. It's about 52 minutes long and well worth the time invested. For those who scoff at conspiracy theories, I strongly suggest you watch this video and reach your own conclusions.
I also suggest watching it more than once to fully understand what this man is saying and revealing.
Speaking for myself, I highlighted key points in the video last night and will watch it again when I have the time. The information is extremely valuable, very powerful, and I'm very grateful that this interview was conducted and saved for people the world over to review, think about, and strongly consider as being true. I firmly believe that Norman Dodd is speaking the truth here.
And that truth is very, very disturbing.
We will never see such interviews and pieces of information on CBS, NBC, ABC, or presented in major newspapers. The MSM would not reveal this.
There is a lot of "eye openers" in this information. Things we need to be aware of. I am still looking through all of the information, so I only have two ideas to add for now.
Firstly, everytime I try to get through the information of Norman Dodd's video I fall asleep! It is something about his voice. I had a high school teacher that had a voice like his (bless his heart). Needless to say I did not stay awake in that class either. If anyone else is having the same problem or trouble following along, here is a copy of Norman Dodd's transcript.
Secondly, I wanted to add to the statement you added on the above Dodds post. You wrote: We will never see such interviews and pieces of information on CBS, NBC, ABC, or presented in major newspapers. The MSM would not reveal this.
Your right! But if CNN or the MSM happen to add something that would actually benefit in some way they downright lie about it or change what the person said. I get so upset that the media can't seem to get anything right (on purpose!).
Here is an example of what I am talking about:
CNN Gets it wrong AGAIN, and AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN.
CNN is the enemy I guess. Can't wait to see what they come up with for Murray's trial. That is why it is so important we have you there Carmen. Bless you!
