Thank you, Bonnie! Excellent topic to discuss and cover as it most certainly affected Michael and continues to affect other Artists, actors and entertainers. I had only seen the video on DMX and found it both fascinating and extremely disturbing. I'll watch the others as soon as I can, hopefully this evening when I'm home from work. I also think I need to review all of Michael's channeled sessions because I don't recall hearing some things. So much was covered that I probably need to listen again to fully understand what was said by him.
I should know better than to go from memory. Michael is all about word for word.
This is a cut and paste from the transcript dated 10/27/09: Q: Can you tell me more about you fascination with Egypt? A: They were the keepers of secrets and had magical powers. I felt the same way. I used symbols and patterns in my work to let the secrets out. Some people will know exactly what I am referring to. When you live in a controlled environment you have to be very careful what you say and how you say it. The power over any man is his secrets. I used this for a good purpose to warn people, it was the only way I had to get the messages out. People would be wise to wake up and see what is going on right around them. You are being controlled and manipulated and you do not even know it.
Wow Bonnie, this looks very revealing and what a great topic. I am traveling now and in a place where you tube videos don't play well, they start and stop while I am watching, so I will have to wait and watch these videos in a week. I am looking forward to seeing them. Thanks again for assisting Michael. You are such a PRO! I am grateful your web site is regular part of my life. Love the connection I feel here.
Dear Bonnie, I'm a new member at your site and I have a few questions about this subject. 1. How did you know that Michael had an interest in Egypt and symbolism? I have not heard this before.
2. The last sentence of Michael's answer was not on the associated video("You are being controlled and manipulated and you do not even know it."), was that part of his answer that did not get on the video?
I hope you answer soon and thanks for all the great information I have gotten from your site so far.
p.s. Is there something wrong with the last video in the series- it will only play up to 3:23 and then it stops
Michael's statement about the music industry in video of transcribed channeled sessions dating 7/22/09 and 7/27/09 : “… Please tell my mother she did her job and I am more spiritual than she thought. She knows that I was forced to do things that I did not want to do. It’s very hard to be a famous person especially in the music business. They think they own you. They want your soul. But I would not give them that… Please open your ears and listen again.”
I just watched the series of videos posted, except for part 6 and the two on Michael as I have already seen them. The entire series really is extremely well done, and I look forward to sharing the videos with my friends on Facebook and with friends and family via e-mail. I think the best thing I can do, personally speaking, is try to share this information with as many people as I can and to somehow get the message across that THEY influence not only the music and motion picture industries but world politics, politicians and the world economy.
O.M.Gosh...This is very eye opening. Now it all makes sense what Michael was talking about in some of those channeling sessions.
Bonnie, as I was watching these videos, I remember watching the Coast to Coast program where they were talking about Michael shortly after his passing. One of the guests was Howard Bloom, he was Michael's PR person and hooked up with MJ and his brothers in 1983. I posted the link below and Howard Bloom starts talking at 2:56. (Part 4 and continues to Part 5&6).
He said that Michael was the most astonishing person he had ever met, and he knew immediately that Michael and his brothers were surrounded by darkness, and he feels that the brothers hired him to "save Michael's soul". There were "invisible sharks", who were some of the "smartest people he had ever met and people who could plot with all of the brilliance and tenacity of a Darth Vader". He also spoke about Joe having the "flames of hell in his eyes" Lots of interesting information.
It is a very gripping and chilling interview.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqQajXVYPQk
Suzanna ---------- It's all for love...L.O.V.E.
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Hello all.. I have been frequenting this site quite a bit, and I'm really deeply concerned about this matter. I have a gut feeling that Conrad Murray was just a scapegoat, although I cannot gurantee it at all. However, after looking through all the videos about Illuminati and the conspiracies, I have realized that one of Michael's songs might have been a sign of rebellion against the conspiracies. The song I'm talking about is Unbreakable.. some crucial parts of the song lyrics goes as: Now I'm just wondering why you think that you can get to me with anything And with all that I've been through, I'm still around
And there's no way you'll ever get to me Why can't you see that you'll never ever hurt me 'cause I wont let it be, see I'm too much for you baby
You can't believe it, you can't conceive it and you can't touch me, 'cause I'm untouchable and I know you hate it, and you can't take it You'll never break me, 'cause I'm unbreakable
and there's no way you'll ever get to me Why can't you see that you'll never ever hurt me
You can try to stop me, but it wont do a thing no matter what you do, I'm still gonna be here Through all your lies and silly games I'm a still remain the same,I'm unbreakable
At first I thought that Michael might be addressing the press and all the negative media, but I had doubts about that when part of the lyrics read :and I know you hate it, and you can't take it. The press only do up the tabloids for money, and won't go to the extent of hating because they can't break him. I feel that Michael's talking about the people involved in the conspiracies that he cannot directly address out loud.
I, too, frequently visit this board. Yesterday I saw Bonnie's post. This past January is when I really began researching the web on this topic. I had already had my suspicions, however, before then and did some research. If you have not done so, I encourage you to investigate on your own. One thing led to another, then another, then another, etc.; at first it was overwhelming for me, but no longer. Many things began to make sense and fall into place. It just makes me more determined to learn all that I can in order to comprehend and to see more clearly the big picture. Michael is one piece in the puzzle. Light, I agree with what you have posted. Michael's courage and strength is just one more of the reasons that he is, or was, so special. He is beyond all of that hurt and pain now, but it is just too complicated and complex to go into it here. Love you more, Michael, is all that I can say.
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Skin head, dead head Everybody gone bad Situation, aggravation Everybody allegation In the suite, on the news Everybody dog food Bang bang, shot dead Everybody's gone mad
All I wanna say is that They don't really care about us All I wanna say is that They don't really care about us
Beat me, hate me You can never break me Will me, thrill me You can never kill me Jew me, sue me Everybody do me Kick me, kike me Don't you black or white me
All I wanna say is that They don't really care about us All I wanna say is that They don't really care about us
Tell me what has become of my life I have a wife and children who love me I am the victim of police brutality, now I'm tired of bein' the victim of hate You're rapin' me of my pride Oh, for God's sake I look to heaven to fulfill its prophecy... Set me free
Skin head, dead head Everybody gone bad trepidation, speculation Everybody allegation In the suite, on the news Everybody dog food black man, black male Throw your brother in jail
All I wanna say is that They don't really care about us All I wanna say is that They don't really care about us
Tell me what has become of my rights Am I invisible because you ignore me? Your proclamation promised me free liberty, now I'm tired of bein' the victim of shame They're throwing me in a class with a bad name I can't believe this is the land from which I came You know I do really hate to say it The government don't wanna see But if Roosevelt was livin' He wouldn't let this be, no, no
Skin head, dead head Everybody gone bad Situation, speculation Everybody litigation Beat me, bash me You can never trash me Hit me, kick me You can never get me
All I wanna say is that They don't really care about us All I wanna say is that They don't really care about us
Some things in life they just don't wanna see But if Martin Luther was livin' He wouldn't let this be
Skin head, dead head Everybody gone bad Situation, segregation Everybody allegation In the suite, on the news Everybody dog food Kick me, strike me Don't you wrong or right me
All I wanna say is that They don't really care about us All I wanna say is that They don't really care about us
All I wanna say is that They don't really care about us All I wanna say is that They don't really care about us
All I wanna say is that They don't really care about us All I wanna say is that They don't really care about us
Will You Be There Dangerous 1991 Hold Me Like The River Jordan And I Will Then Say To Thee You Are My Friend
Carry Me Like You Are My Brother Love Me Like A Mother Will You Be There?
Weary Tell Me Will You Hold Me When Wrong, Will You Skold Me When Lost Will You Find Me?
But They Told Me A Man Should Be Faithful And Walk When Not Able And Fight Till The End But I'm Only Human
Everyone's Taking Control Of Me Seems That The World's Got A Role For Me I'm So Confused Will You Show To Me You'll Be There For Me And Care Enough To Bear Me
(Hold Me) (Lay Your Head Lowly) (Softly Then Boldly) (Carry Me There)
(Lead Me) (Love Me And Feed Me) (Kiss Me And Free Me) (I Will Feel Blessed)
(Carry) (Carry Me Boldly) (Lift Me Up Slowly) (Carry Me There)
(Save Me) (Heal Me And Bathe Me) (Softly You Say To Me) (I Will Be There)
(Lift Me) (Lift Me Up Slowly) (Carry Me Boldly) (Show Me You Care)
(Hold Me) (Lay Your Head Lowly) (Softly Then Boldly) (Carry Me There)
(Need Me) (Love Me And Feed Me) (Kiss Me And Free Me) (I Will Feel Blessed)
[Spoken] In Our Darkest Hour In My Deepest Despair Will You Still Care? Will You Be There? In My Trials And My Tribulations Through Our Doubts And Frustrations In My Violence In My Turbulence Through My Fear And My Confessions In My Anguish And My Pain Through My Joy And My Sorrow In The Promise Of Another Tomorrow I'll Never Let You Part For You're Always In My Heart.
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Regarding the Egypt question. This question was raised by Irina. She has already shared her comments with you.
I did not use the last sentence in the video. The feeling was it was too soon for people to hear the information. It now seems more than appropriate to share this.
"...I Am Tired Of This Devil I Am Tired Of This Stuff I Am Tired Of This Business So When The Going Gets Rough I Ain't Scared Of Your Brother I Ain't Scared Of No Sheets I Ain't Scared Of Nobody Girl When The Goin' Gets Mean..."
(I had to come back and point this out. Just noticed it. Do you see the combined symbolism in your three names above? Just came together that way...interesting isn't it?)
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Hello all, the previous post was too rushed so I did not do a proper greeting. I'm really glad that I can voice my opinions here and get feed-backs,thanks for this platform! (:
And back to the ongoing discussion, I visited a bookstore just now, and I was flipping through a few of the books that were reflecting michael's life. I came to this picture whereby michael had his two hands put up beside his head, imitating a devil's horns. I don't know if I'm thinking too much or what.. but perhaps it might be just a little relevant. If I'm not wrong, the picture was taken in the 2002 trial, whereby marcel avram filed a $21million lawsuit against michael. Perhaps this was another tactic to bring michael down?
It's horrible how everyone wanted to tear him down.. and there was also another court hearing whereby michael was proved innocent on all ten counts - jermaine jackson said that the court only placed six seats despite the fact that there were more family members than that. I searched the internet and found out that he actually said that in two different interviews, one in phone call with Larry King, and another in a recorded interview.
Both links are here:http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0506/15/lkl.01.html
Jermaine said in the recorded interview that he believed that it was all a conspiracy, and that only six seats were placed so it seemed as if michael's family did not care about him, even though it was all untrue!! It's really horrid how they have control over such little details that matter..
Honestly, I want the whole truth to be out and michael's death solved, but it already seems to me what a powerful and crazy organization is behind it all. It'll take more than what we think are sufficient to dig into this truth. No matter what, I feel strongly that all these matters must surface..michael has been in enough pain, thanks to these whatever-is-suitable-to-call-them! The truth will prevail.
I ran my message in the Saturday Sun, I had to identify I ain't second to none, I told about equality it's you either you are wrong or you are right, if your thinking about my baby it doesn't matter if your BLACK OR WHITE. Apparently it is still either wrong or right, the wrong have spent plenty of time and effort proving they are wrong, the pendulum has been swung so far to one side we can't see it and some forget that it is there. Dawn
Almost forgot: Ezekiel 33:31 And they come unto thee as the people cometh, and they sit before thee [as] my people, and they hear thy words, but they will not do them: for with their mouth they shew much love, [but] their heart goeth after their covetousness.
33:32 And, lo, thou [art] unto them as a very lovely song of one that hath a pleasant voice, and can play well on an instrument: for they hear thy words, but they do them not.
33:33 And when this cometh to pass, (lo, it will come,) then shall they know that a prophet hath been among them.
Nice to know the manipulators are still the same as ever.
This is something that has bothered me for a long time. And I have always believed that that doctor was not the mastermind behind Michael's death, he was just a tool. The production company hired the dr, they paid the dr, they took out a life insurance policy on Michael to pay out huge if he were to die of a drug overdose... all the equations add up to and are pointing right at the answer. And who does the production company answer to... THE MUSIC INDUSTRY. Michael knew this, he was terrified for his life, he knew somehow, someday they would get to him. Just my thoughts on the matter.
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this is mostly a Catholic take but the general assessment is correct:
Music and the Loss of Virtue. By Matthew James Bellisario 2008
"Almost all of the modern music we are exposed to on the radio and on television are of a non-virtuous type. We are plagued by rap, country, and electric guitar driven rock, all accompanied by voodoo-like syncopated rhythms. Rock, Jazz, Blues and other modern music originated from Africa and its pagan, voodoo rituals...
We know that music cannot make people do things against their will, but we can say and prove that it disposes us to a certain attitude... Music, like all other arts, can be classified according to its spiritual likeness. It either rises or descends. I don’t think it is hard to prove that sound has an effect on living organisms...
The ancients also viewed music as the binding fabric of our very existence. Many of the ancients theorized that the universe was bound together by an audible force; therefore music was viewed as being very sacred...
In order to discern whether music is good or bad, we must look at its rhythm and its harmony. There are few characteristics of music that would disqualify it from being virtuous. The first of these being a syncopated, voodoo-like rhythm that speaks directly to the bodily sexual passions...
The drumbeats of pagan voodoo rituals became the primary driving force of the blues and rock/pop music. The early blues singers like Robert Johnson often speak of despair, immorality and Satan...
Unfortunately we live in a culture where non-marital sex is the norm and most people do not think it is wrong. Since this is the case, most people see nothing wrong with this type of music. Music should not be used to dispose people to bodily temptation. Most popular music of all types fosters this behavior...
The next disruption of music comes through the harmony. Any music that disposes its listeners to despair and leaves them there cannot be virtuous. Many modern pop songs are nothing but pity parties for the listener. When a music piece leaves the listener in a state of depression it should be classified as illicit. When we are in a state of depression, we often want to know that others feel the same, and so we are drawn to sad music. We like to sulk and feel sorry for ourselves. However God does not want this from us. Sure we are to grieve at times, but we must never despair from our trials. A good piece of music will never leave the listener in a state of depression..."
article in full at: http://www.catholicchampion.com/page30/page30.html http://www.catholicchampion.com/page31/page31.html http://www.catholicchampion.com/page32/page32.html
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Christina, I noticed after and I have to say I was stunned. It is an entirely different feeling looking at this phenomenon objectively than when it actually happens to you. This certainly drives the reality of it home.
I have found some highly interesting videos about the role of the Illuminati in the music industry, and a few in particular involve a former Illuminatist named John Todd. I've never tried linking a video to this site, so I hope this works. If not, I'll keep trying.
The information John Todd mentions is so bizarre sounding that one can almost not believe it - but for the fact that there are already a number of videos available that point in the same direction.
This video covers the hand gestures and other visual symbols used by music Artists. It's pretty strong in terms of content and implications. I don't know how long it will remain on YouTube. The background music and soundtrack sounds like backward masking has been used in some segments. Some of these videos are gradually disappearing from YouTube.
People in very high positions within politics, social groups, elite high society and the entertainment industry are quite possibly involved in the Illuminati. The more I read, the more I learn. To truly be willing to understand this, one must be willing to set aside some preconceived notions and many of the 'truths' we were taught in school and while growing up.
As Yoda said to young Luke Skywalker, "You must unlearn what you have learned."
Tugging on the finger tips of my left velvet glove. . .
Back in the 1970s, for those of us old enough to remember, there used to be an expression used by surfers and embroidered on T-Shirts (I had one such T-Shirt as a little girl), and the expression was "Hang Ten." The hand symbol being used by music Artists as featured in this video was also used, if I remember correctly, by surfers. For years, I had associated that hand gesture with the surfer's expression, "Hang ten!" The A-OK symbol with the thumb curling towards the pointer finger, with the other fingers held straight, never meant anything more to me than that - until I started reading about THEM.
Tugging a little harder on the fingers of the left glove. . . ;)
This is a link that explains what backward masking is and how it's used in the music industry. The page explains how songs may include lyrics that sound innocent enough on the surface, but when played backwards, their true meaning becomes clearer. Some examples are cited and allow playback of the music enabling the listener to hear the words played forward as originally sung by the singer, and then played in reverse.
In the trance channeled session, dated 7/02/09 Part 2 of 2 at 3:29- in the video Michael says: "...And I hope that everyone understands. Everyone feels like they knew me and the fact is very few people knew me for who I really was. It was always the show that had to be put on and the constant glare from lights on me and on my children. Never having time just for myself to just be. Just be a regular, normal person..."
Carmen, I became aware of the John Todd video statements and the information you have posted here soon after Michael died. This will be helpful to some who are as yet not aware.
regards, Irina
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I just discovered John Todd videos a couple of days ago on YouTube. It's very interesting what I get into when I explore. I'm late to the 'party,' as usual. Please post and share videos that you've discovered, Irina, as some of us may not have seen them. Hopefully Bonnie will consider them acceptable as long as they're on topic.
I really must listen to Michael's channeled sessions again. I don't recall the quote you've shown, and I know that I'll glean more from his sessions with Bonnie when I listen again. It will also help me to absorb the information better now that almost a year has passed. Grief and tears don't mix well with proper listening, sometimes.
I do firmly believe that Michael was more often than not misunderstood, and that many people who thought they knew him did not. "Everyone feels like they knew me and the fact is very few people knew me for who I really was" would explain how so many people who claim to have known Michael during his life time have such conflicting accounts of him and contradictory pieces of information about him.
I personally believe that the people who truly knew and understood Michael in life are for the most part remaining silent since his passing. They're not selling their stories to the tabloids and writing books about their years spent with him. They're not blabbing on message boards. I've said it before on the IMDb and the Sony MJ site: The people who know the most often say and reveal the least. I am specifically referring to the entertainment industry and people who have access to certain kinds of information and celebrities.
I also think that the people who truly knew Michael, or feel they have come to know him, don't feel the need to push their beliefs on to others, or to prove anything about him - except for his innocence in terms of what the media, the press and the public did to him. May those who feel that they knew or have come to know Michael find peace in knowing, and may they be at peace.
And if Michael himself didn't put certain pieces of information about himself and his private life out there for public consumption, then he had his reasons. I respect those reasons, whatever they may be.
Thank you again, Irina, for sharing Michael's words. I will listen again to Bonnie's channeled sessions with Michael. Much appreciated!
I was extremely disturbed by Michael's death. To the very core of my being. I came across Bonnie's site in search of answers. Prior to that I was pouring over hours of information that was streaming about Michael, the music industry and all related subjects. Just listening and learning. The channels just opened up for me and I was able to truly hear and understand him.
Yes, I feel he was and still is, by some, very misunderstood because he is such an intensely private person; as well as because of everything that has befallen him. I do strongly believe the tides will turn with time.
I will continue to share. And you are welcome!
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I have been staring at this for a while and I have to point this out to you and so that others know as well. I think I can safely assume that everyone who has done their homework on Michael has learned that he is a perfectionist. And I do feel strongly that he does not like being misrepresented.
When I went looking I found that many of the lyrics sites show the words to some of Michael's songs incorrectly. (I have been specifically looking at his songs. There must be other artists who may have controversial lyrics in their songs who are being just as misrepresented but I have not researched as yet.)
I want to specifically point to the lyrics from the song "Will You Be There", which is posted by Dawn above. There are several discrepancies on lyrics sites, when compared to the actual recording, and which in turn alter a good portion of what Michael is trying to convey in the song. If you listen to the actual recording of the entire song there is a lot more that Michael is revealing about himself, which sounds like it is unbearable for him emotionally. This is represented by the meaning behind the word "TRIBULATIONS". This word has been replaced on the lyrics sites by the word "TRIPULATIONS". (Two completely different meanings.)
In addition the lyrics are presented incompletely.I have posted the entire song as it was recorded in the thread "Michael's Spirituality". I feel it belongs there.
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Thanks Irina, I can't see lines straight, so I did not see the P was a P not a B. Tribulation is definitely what he went through, and I knew that I just missed it. Reading it with my magnifying glasses I notice scold is spelled incorrectly as well. I am beginning to think the person who posted these lyrics did not have English as a first language and was trying to write phonetically.
As far as fans getting Lyrics wrong not always their fault. as you can hear in the first verse of Beat it from the live version. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOqY18Nzr1A 1992 Bucharest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwAZcxiOxow&feature=related Seoul Korea, now this video starts after the short for Black or White. That's not here is it??????? Now this one is from Auckland http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBsuBgBT5-8&feature=related He says here. Comparing the three you can hear the difference. This is album. Love the lip sinc skills by the way. As far as Will You be There
In some versions he sings strong enough to pull me (rather then bear me.) as well as seems like the worlds got a hold of me, (rather then seems like the world's got a role for me.) Again the Bucharest video is the easiest reference.
In the video released by Sony he sings the phrase as written above. with role for me and bear me.
More message, more mistrust of Sony, or obvious manipulation by Sony.
At this juncture it would be good to reiterate your point about his accuracy. While all here are well versed in Michael's desire for accuracy, other's may not be and could try to present it as an accident, forgetting words, etc, it is clear the changes in Beat It Were Intentional. With both changes made during live versions as compared to the recorded versions, Michael is saying soomething so true, it is heart breaking when you learn what it is.
The funny thing is, since his live versions were recorded many people are familiar with Pull me then Bear me.
hi Dawn, Not to worry. I was not pointing at you. Just calling attention to the issue. That was not you doing the letter substitutions. There is a lot of "artistic" license going on with the sites. It is one thing when the artist is taking that license with his work during different performances and a whole other thing when something is being deliberately misrepresented. That is all I was pointing to. :)
regards, Irina
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Thanks :D im glad that you revealed the industry to everyone bonnie. i would think that Michael has told you about the business. If you look on the dangerous album, alestore moody is on it.
I find it all unbelievable too. Here’s an address to a page with an informative, hard-core article about the workings of the illuminati: http://www.illuminati-news.com/black-magic.htm
You may also want to consider some possible interpretations on this site. There are some very good detailed observations presented. This was posted here before by Carmen but it seems worth repeating. Here is one example: http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=3925 There are however other links on the home page delving into the work of other major artists as well. Worth reading.
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Ahh yes I have seen these videos. I am still on the fence about the whole Illumanti angle. Ok if they wanted MJ to sing certain things and sing about a certain message, why would they allow songs such as Earth Song, They Dont Care About US, Heal the World. Those all go against the supposed Illuminati message, why would they allow him to purchase the ATV catalogue (which was valuable at the time of purchase). MJ had a lot of power in the music industry and still does. Have I seen him throw up the baphomet? Only in the This is It poster and his body is making the symbol of the baphoment in his main poster for TIS.
Where they trying to break MJ for his ATV cataloge? If that is true why was aquitted in the 2005 trial,? If the Illuminti is so powerful they could have fabricated evidence. Regualar police do it all the time. And all the blood sacrifice stuff, I dont know its so far fetched. Who was MJ blod sacrifice then to become famous? Do you think he would ever agree to that? Doubt it, he was a devote and baptized JW for many many years. I had even seen him a district convention in the 80's. MLK Ultra Slave? Don't buy it, Katherine a devote JW would never agree to anything like that and as much as Joe abused them, I don't see him putting his children in harms way like that.
So the illuninati theories while entertaining, I don't hold stock in it. There are to many holes and some things are just don't make sense. There are also a lot of contridictions. I think when MJ said people have sold their souls, he means that people have come into the industry and sold out who they were as people. And the evils of the industry he is speaking of is robbing artists, stealing publishing, royalties, hindering the artist creatively and making them work to death with their shady contracts. I dont think any blood sacrifices were going on and selling of your soul to the devil for fame IMHO.
Not saying atists or people in the entertainment industry aren't involved in occult practices, I just don't think the Illuminati or the dark devilish forces control the industry. What happens to you by being used and abused as a money maker is dark and devilsh, but I dont think people sit around selling souls and agreeing to blood sacrifices.
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Hi - I am not new to this site as far as following it many months. However, I have never commented before.
I thank Bonnie for all of her work on behalf of Michael. It is so important and I am in full-support.
I did want to ask Christina and Irina if there was any significance to either of them with 11:11 that they commented on in this disussion. Or anyone else if they care to share.
Thank you - I learn much from all that post.
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A lot of people are seeing 11:11 and 12:12 on their clocks and other electrical devices. It does not surprise me that it would come up with the poster here. It is considered by many and myself included to be a sign of a significant spiritual event or task. I have been seeing 11:11 off and on since 1987.
We are in very difficult times and many people are waking up to a more spiritual path. There have been many who have written to me that feel the death of Michael Jackson has put them on a different and more spiritual path.
Pay attention to these little signs they are a wake up call from your guidance.
We do live in a magical universe, we just need to pay more attention to the signs along the way.
Take care, Bonnie
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I have been seeing the 11:11, 12:12 prompt since Michael's death. Perhaps they were there before but I have been prompted by this intensely since his passing last year. There are periods when I see these both morning and night for several days in a row and then there are some days that go by without me seeing this.
To my understanding it is a kind of "keep on looking for and don't miss the answers" prompt from my guidance. I agree with Bonnie in that now when I look up and my eyes land on the number, be it on my computer screen or the digital clock in the bus terminal or my cable TV box at home, I certainly feel the presence of magic.
And yes it is, at least in my case, related to the "awakening" to the meaning of the messages around me, to a deeper sense of spirituality and the overall scope of the depth of the universe surrounding us.
Hope these explanations help a bit. And there are as well some links addressing this on the internet.
best regards Irina
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Some here may also want to consider this take on the "Dangerous" Album cover: http://oneaesthetic.blogspot.com/2009/07/michael-jacksons-dangerous-cover-album.html
The man at the bottom of the image is identified as Aleister Crowley. It may be very informative to look INTO who and what this person represents. Here is a good place to start and it will take you into further exploration of this subject: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleister_Crowley
Do please keep in mind that Michael was trying to "let the secrets out".
best regards Irina
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Thank you for your post Irina. Enjoyed reading about Aleister Crowley and the Freemasons. This is all new for me, feel like I lived in a bubble! Looking forward to more of your posts.
moved from: Michael, Novel, Mottola, Malnik and Bandier post
Does this make anyone recall the sentiment Michael expressed in his SMOOTH CRIMINAL and YOU ROCK MY WORLD videos? DO THINK OF THE COMMON THEME IN BOTH. WITHOUT SAYING IT THE MAIN RELATIONSHIP BROUGHT OUT IN THIS ARTICLE IS QUITE OBVIOUS.Note the earlier video was published before the highly public troubles started and the latter just happens to be the prelude to his fude with Sony/ Mottola and the last major video of Michael's that was funded and produced. MICHAEL DID SPEAK THROUGH HIS ART. We all know the saying goes that the truth is stranger than fiction. In this case we can also add that it is SHOCKING and PAINFUL. and it was written all over Michael on many occasions.
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Irina you opened my eyes. I can see clearly that Michael was communicating. I always looked at his short films as great entertainment but now I see there was much more hidden meaning. Thank you. Jane
