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sdparanormal
996 posts
Mar 06, 2011
12:43 PM
The Joy Behar Show: La Toya says Michael Jackson's death a 'conspiracy'




The Joy Behar Show singer and "Apprentice" contestant La Toya Jackson talks about the upcoming trial of Dr. Conrad Murray. She believes Murray was the "fall guy" and considers her brother's death part of a bigger conspiracy.

Joy: Do you think he (Dr. Conrad Murray) is guilty?

La Toya: Do I think he’s guily? Joy, I’ll tell you what I think, as I’ve said from day one I truly believe that he was the fall guy. I believe that it was arranged he was the fall guy and they used him to do what they’re doing. And I will always believe that and I’m certainly hoping that the truth comes out during the trial that, as you know, was pushed back until May.

She went onto say that…

“This is a conspiracy that we’re dealing with. And a lot of people don’t know that or understand it. They only know what the media feeds you.

She also said that Michael feared that people were trying to kill him:

“Well Michael told me, before he passed he told me that he was afraid and thought he was going to die he thought he was going to be murdered.”

What do you think? Do you think La Toya is right?
Carmen68
628 posts
Mar 06, 2011
8:34 PM
Thank you for posting and sharing this interview with LaToya, Bonnie. LaToya has been very consistent in her stance regarding Michael's death and her firm belief that a conspiracy was involved. I've been following the Jackson family since Michael's death in terms of keeping up with their thoughts, views and feelings on this issue, and to the best of my recollection and knowledge, LaToya has NEVER wavered in this area.

I wonder what her thoughts and feelings are regarding the previously missing video surveillance footage that has apparently been - conveniently and suddenly? - recovered. It was widely and repeatedly reported that there was a substantial amount of missing video surveillance footage, cash and possibly jewelry. Now, we read about Judge Pastor insisting that the prosecution and defense must share discovery, which in this case includes the surveillance footage from June 25, 2009. I find it a conspiracy in and of itself that such footage went missing, and Judge Pastor refers to its apparent existence as though it was never missing to begin with.

Isn't is amazing what the MSM chooses NOT to emphasize? Just as LaToya said in this interview, we are fed certain pieces of information while being starved of others.

Now, I have to wonder if there continues to be missing segments from that surveillance video, as was reported back in '09. If there are any gaps or discrepancies with the time stamps or time frames in the video coverage, I tend to think the court will want to ask why and where that missing footage went.

Warmly,
~Carmen~
Madelon
15 posts
Mar 07, 2011
12:11 AM
Last year La Toya was on Dutch television also with the same information that dr Murray was the fall guy.

I don't know how to put it here but I can give you the link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2_UEZO4Y3I

The first part contains images you maybe don't like but the interview is okay and in Englisch.
Irina
843 posts
Mar 07, 2011
7:50 AM
Thank You for posting this Bonnie.

Yes, La Toya has not wavered from her position since the beginning.

Now since it has emerged that, in addition to all of their other evil deeds in relationship to Michael Jackson, the Estate has taken on bullying and threatening Michael's sister-in-law along with his nieces and nephews, as well as booting his Mother and children out of his mother's residence, I hope someone in the media will give Alejandra a chance to say some of what is stated in her lawsuit in an on-camera interview.

Last Edited by on Mar 07, 2011 7:53 AM
Irina
907 posts
Mar 29, 2011
11:52 AM
Link to full transcript and audio of recorded interview with LaToya conducted by Chris Yandek on March 26th, 2011

http://www.cyinterview.com/2011/03/latoya-jackson-on-
michael-jackson-celebrity-apprentice-donald-trump-
elizabeth-taylor-and-more/?t=LaToya+Jackson%3A+On+Michael+Jackson%2C+Celebrity+
Apprentice%2C+Donald+Trump%2C+Elizabeth+Taylor+and+More




here is an excerpt with comments related to the current defense strategy and the upcoming trial:

"
CY: Do you ever have dreams about Michael?

LJ: “Well, of course. Are you kidding? Absolutely, absolutely. I like to think that he’s still with us and he will always be with us.”

CY: You said to Barbara Walters in 2009 that you did not take hard drives that allegedly contained over 100 songs of your brothers’. Do you have any information today about the whereabouts of those alleged missing hard drives?

LJ: “No and I did not take those and it’s so sad because it’s one of those situations where people just pin the blame on anybody and they don’t know what happened and they just put it on you. It was basically Frank Dileo who said that, which was awful. Think about it, it’s my brother, but I did not. Actually at that time, I didn’t even know what a hard drive was.”

CY: New reports came out about the missing surveillance tapes from the last hours of Michael’s life. The LAPD said they were erased because they didn’t know there would be a homicide investigation. Do you have any thoughts or anything you want to share about that?

LJ: “Yes I do. Absolutely. First of all as I’ve always said, my brother was murdered. That’s number one. Number two, you never ever, ever erase anything. I don’t care if it was the first four minutes or what. You don’t erase it. That’s a cover up and that’s a hide because they know that people were in that house prior to anybody getting there. They were already in that house and they didn’t want us to see who was leaving. When I got on the scene, I asked the police officers, ‘Where are the surveillance tapes? I want you to pull them.’ They said, ‘Well.’ ‘I want to see everything on it. I want to see it.’ I asked them over and over and I haven’t seen it to this day and I just learned just the other day they erased it so they say.”

CY: Yeah. So the reports say. What did you make of Michael’s autopsy report?

LJ: “Well, I wanted a second one and we got a second one. Honestly, nothing in this country is always properly straight. There are so many loopholes and so many things that were done in a different way that I am not happy with what’s happening and what’s going on whatsoever. At the autopsy I want to be there. I want to make sure that nothing was done improperly and at the last minute, no you can’t come. It’s like, why can’t I? I want to make sure. I don’t want people cheating him out of his life the way he did because I’m very troubled by all this.”

CY: I can totally understand that and fans want to hear this from you. It is true six weeks after Michael passed away that you did accompany corner officials to Forest Lawn Memorial Park so they could get samples, hair samples for toxicology testing and if, reasons and results of that?

LJ: “Yes I did. I was the informant on his body so I was constantly going down there and I didn’t like the fact that they had to go back and get hair samples, which they had gotten, then they wanted palm prints of his palm and that troubled me greatly because they had tested his body over and over and over again. Why that? That’s one of the things you don’t forget. Why that? So I said, ‘For them to clutch his fists that way, they’re going to say that he grabbed something or grabbed whatever it was or did whatever they were gonna say he did to himself.’ That’s what I’ve always said. They were gonna say he injected himself and I promise you that’s what’s going to come out because there was no reason for that.”

CY: Since the summer of 2009 shortly after your brother’s death when you gave a few interviews, have you found any new information whether it be people who could’ve contributed to your brother’s death or any other new evidence or conclusions?

LJ: “I found tons of new information and that’s what I do. I found tons of it and I’m very disturbed by everything that happened and everything that took place. It needs to heard and told.”

CY: And when are we gonna hear about this? Have you shared it with authorities?

LJ: “You will hear about it very soon.”

CY: Ok, then people are wondering as well besides that, ok, considering that information you say you do have and evidence, ok. Did you hire a private investigator? Have you talked to authorities? Everyone would like to know that specifically?

LJ: “No. Simply because the Los Angeles Police Department, they have the detectives on it, they’re taking care of it and they don’t wish to have anyone to intervene. Although, I’m not pleased with the job that they’ve done. There is a cover up, a big cover up.”

CY: So then do you still believe the trial of Conrad Murray is a sideshow and if you do, what should his punishment be?

LJ: “I do believe it’s a sideshow and I will say this to, I truly believe that Dr. Conrad Murray was simply the fall guy and nothing more. That’s all he is and I just think that he was the guy they put up front to make it look like something happened. I see the way that it’s going and they’re gonna say it was pure negligence and I just can’t believe that and I don’t believe it.”

Last Edited by on Mar 29, 2011 3:40 PM
Carmen68
674 posts
Mar 29, 2011
3:06 PM
Thank you, Irina, for posting LaToya's interview. I instinctively agree with her and believe that she is telling the truth. It's interesting that the LAPD doesn't want anyone else, or any other authorities, involved in this case. That would make sense if they are being used as part of the cover up.

Edited to add: As I mentioned on the IMDb a couple of weeks ago, the LAPD should not have erased ANY of the surveillance footage, whether they believed a crime had been committed or not. They had no right, no business and no authority to take that major and highly important step in eliminating possible evidence. I'm not a lawyer, but even I, a civilian, can use my common sense and know that NOTHING IS TO BE TOUCHED, MOVED, REMOVED, OR IN THE CASE OF SURVEILLANCE FOOTAGE, ERASED, AT A POSSIBLE CRIME OR HOMICIDE SCENE UNTIL A CONCLUSION HAS BEEN REACHED BY THE AUTHORITIES. Without knowing the true cause of Michael Jackson's death, the LAPD and possibly other authorities removed, erased and/or tampered with the setting, the environment and the objects within that environment. Add to that fact the other fact that Murray told a security guard or member of the house staff to put vials and syringes, etc., into a bag BEFORE CALLING 911!!!

And certain people who suddenly - and conveniently - returned to Michael's life, personally and/or professionally, are lying as low and as far under the legal radar as possible. . .gee, wonder why. . .

Last Edited by on Mar 29, 2011 3:14 PM
Carmen68
701 posts
Apr 07, 2011
12:18 PM
Thank you, Irina, for the recap and copying of these articles for archiving here.

"When I went to the house later that day there was NO cash or jewellery. So many people had been through that house before I got there. Someone went in there and did a good job. It was very strange."

Interesting that the LAPD, investigators and detectives apparently never dusted for fingerprints. If they did, I guess the invaders all wore gloves. Again, I find that mighty convenient.

If LaToya's position regarding Michael's situation with various prescription medications is true, then it would suggest to me what I have speculated on before: THEY worked from within Michael's inner circle to get to him and used his areas of vulnerability to do what THEY did. According to Bonnie's connection with Michael, Michael disagrees with being called an 'addict' and would therefore most likely disagree with LaToya here. Since I'm not a doctor and I'm not the coroner, I'm not able to make the distinction between one person's pain management and another person's pain medication addiction. I can't make that judgment call.

"He didn't want to do 50 shows, he only wanted to do 10. But he was pushed. And Michael being Michael didn't want to let down his fans."

That I can completely believe from the position of working in one of the costume houses that was involved in the construction of costumes for "This Is It." I was told by our work room coordinator at the time that the original work order or plan was for 10 shows, not 50. So, I'll stand by that.

Regarding Michael's desire to go into motion pictures and directing, I can only say that he would have been very disappointed. He would have been up against the same forces that dogged him in the music business, and he would have discovered, much to his frustration and disappointment, that the motion picture industry is run by pencil pushers and accountants. It's about making money. It's not really about being creative, artistic and engaging in wonderful forms of self expression. That's not to say that creative, artistic films are never made or that creative and artistic people don't work in the industry. Of course, that's not what I'm saying. However, this industry is a BUSINESS FIRST AND FOREMOST, and I can tell you right up front, knowing what I know after having been in it for about 22 or 23 years, that Michael would have been extremely frustrated artistically. The only way around certain road blocks would have been for Michael himself to finance EVERYTHING, including promotion and distribution. The costs involved in making and releasing films are enormous, and those costs are generally covered by a variety of groups and individuals.

Regarding the second article, I tend to think Michael was extremely close to Janet over the years, and he mentioned that closeness in "Moonwalk." I don't doubt or question LaToya's closeness to her brother, but I personally choose to keep in mind that Janet was referenced by Michael as his "twin" in his autobiography. Growing up, they were almost inseparable. Obviously, Janet has her own feelings about Michael and her relationship with him.

**But she insists she believes he was ‘clean’ in preparation for the O2 shows. ‘He had just been to England on a cleanse and he was drinking juices and being pure. He had cleaned everything out of his system ready to do the concerts in London. . ‘I believe he was cut off from the real world and the drugs were a way [for his hangers-on] to get in there. They got him hooked on drugs. He was pure and clean and then drugs came back into his system. I think it shocked his system so much it killed him.’**

The comments from LaToya as quoted above would explain why the autopsy report mentions nothing about any addiction to medications, etc. No drug dependency involving prescription medications or recreational drugs was mentioned by the coroner in his report. Also, if Michael had been fasting or doing whatever he was doing to clean out his system and his body (for 6 months, no less!), any sudden introduction of chemicals could be potentially dangerous in terms of being a shock to his system. Michael was certainly eating since he had a chef who was cooking and preparing meals.

Grace Rwaramba, according to what I read online last fall, was fired by Katherine. According to what I read, Grace got into an argument with Rebbie regarding Katherine's handling and raising of Michael's children. Apparently, Grace disagreed with Katherine's approach. Rebbie had a few things to say, including a little reminder that Katherine has raised 9 children, so she should know a few things about how to handle and raise kids. Grace and Rebbie got into a physical fight after Grace slapped or struck Rebbie, unless Rebbie struck her first, and out Grace went. I find it rather odd that Grace has a husband somewhere in the world, and was married to him for years while living with Michael and functioning as a nanny. One would think that her husband would have wanted to either move out to where Grace was living to be with her, or would have insisted that she find work as a nanny in a nearby town or city. That was a rather odd arrangement, but then again, if a person has the chance to work for THE Michael Jackson, family members and spouses may look the other way - as long as the checks keep rolling in. My instincts about Mrs. Rwaramba are not favorable. Sorry. Her criticism of the two women whom Michael would have chosen to care for his children (he loved and trusted his mother and I think may have wanted Rebbie to possibly care for his children if Katherine could not) doesn't score positive points in my book. There are other things I've seen online that concern me as well, but I'm dropping the subject at this point.

**La Toya says she was shocked by the emergence of a 2002 will stating Diana Ross should be a back-up to Jackson matriarch Katherine as the children’s guardian. She says: ‘Michael always told us that he wanted his eldest sister Rebbie Jackson to look after the children. Rebbie had a nice family, which Michael loved. He told many family members that she was his choice. We believe there is another will which will emerge. He updated his wills almost every five years, so we expect one to come out from 2007."**

BINGO!!!!

‘Those children were his greatest joy. He was a superstar but the only people who loved him unconditionally were the children.’

BINGO!!!!! again. However, I disagree with LaToya when she omits Elizabeth Taylor from Michael's list of friends and "people who loved him unconditionally." He may not have had more than 4 or 5 true friends at the most, but Taylor most certainly deserves to be mentioned. I personally would agree with LaToya that Michael's children represented unconditional love to him. I think he wanted and needed so very much to be loved and to feel truly loved. Yes, his fans gave him love, but that kind of love is not one-on-one. It is worthy of great respect, as Michael and his fans greatly respected each other, but I think Michael craved human intimacy and closeness, and as a result of the life of fame that he had ever since he was a child, some things ultimately eluded him in life. That's just my personal opinion.

‘Michael knew he was never going to be a grey-haired old man. He didn’t want to grow old. He told me he thought he would die in his 50s. He said he would get married at 45 and die around 50. He had a gut feeling.’

If the above quote is true, then Michael should not have had children. If you truly believe that you are going to die in your fifties, why start your family while you're in your forties? He DID die as he entered his fifties, and he left behind the children he so dearly loved. I don't think or believe that he could have predicted that, nor do I believe he would have wanted that. In 2003, Michael turned 45, and we all know what THAT year turned out to be for him, as well as the following year, and the year after that. Marriage would have been the last thing on his mind.

We don't always get to control the timing of events, and we don't always get to call the shots in life.

Quoting Katherine Jackson from the last article: She said: "I know Michael did not die of natural causes. Someone did this to him. Mean, evil, vicious people didn't want him around for some reason. It just shows how vicious people are and greedy for money. . . He told me several times that he felt that people wanted him gone, wanted him dead. He would always say that. And for him to say that he must have known something."

Yes, indeed, he knew something. He knew about THEM. He knew who and what he was. He knew his place in this world. He also probably knew too much.

Not everything in this world revolves around or is motivated by money.

Thank you again, Irina.

Warmly,
Carmen

Last Edited by on Apr 07, 2011 1:34 PM
sdparanormal
1286 posts
Jun 21, 2011
9:11 AM
http://www.okmagazine.com/2011/06/la-toya-jackson-calls-dr-conrad-murray-the-fall-guy-in-michael-jacksons-death/

La Toya Jackson Calls Dr. Conrad Murray the “Fall Guy” in Michael Jackson’s Death



June 21st, 2011 11:32 am / Author: Nicole Eggenberger

La Toya Jackson recently published the autobiography, Starting Over, in which she calls for further investigation into the death of her brother Michael Jackson. La Toya sat down with Today this morning to discuss how she believes Michael was murdered.

La Toya writes in the book that Michael feared assassination by those who wanted to steal his valuable publishing catalog and estate.

“So all the attention being paid to Dr. Conrad Murray for the death of Michael, you say he is the fall guy for a much larger plot,” Matt Lauer said on Today during his interview with La Toya. “You write, ‘I decided to investigate Michael’s death and go public with what I found with the hope of getting justice for Michael by identifying those who really killed him.’ And yet in the book, La Toya, I couldn’t find anywhere where you actually named someone or give proof of anyone actually killing Michael.”

“When you read the book you understand it completely,” La Toya responded. “Once you read it, you will understand it. And I have to say that I was not there when he was actually murdered. However…”

“But you do believe that it was not Dr. Conrad Murray responsible for his death, that someone actually murdered your brother?” Matt asked.

“I believe that Dr. Murray was definitely the fall guy,” she said. “I think that they need to investigate this a bit more. Go deeper into it.”

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Irina
1011 posts
Jun 21, 2011
11:59 AM
Hi Bonnie,
Thank you for this latest update :)

Glad to see that La Toya held her ground well, in spite of Matt Lauer trying to discredit her and the details she presents about Michael's death in the new book.
HTW
332 posts
Jun 21, 2011
12:06 PM
I agree with you Irina.

This is really courageous of her and should be backed and supported where ever we can do this.

Thank you for the update as well , Bonnie.

Best wishes
Ute

One more to add:

I think LaToya´s book as well as the books of Jermaine and Dieter Wiesner (that will hopefully be available in English as well) that are about to be published right before the upcoming trial in September and later in November will finally provide another insight into Michael´s life and cicumstances of his death and clear it all up to the broad public.
I ordered LaToya´s book and will have it at the start of July.

Last Edited by on Jun 21, 2011 12:17 PM
Roxy
324 posts
Jun 21, 2011
2:20 PM
Bonnie thanks for posting the interviews and updates.

Letting you know that La Toya will also be a guest on The Piers Morgan Show tonight on CNN at 8:00 CST.

Last Edited by on Jun 21, 2011 2:21 PM
sdparanormal
1290 posts
Jun 22, 2011
10:01 AM
I agree Irina. I would love to sit down with La Toya and compare notes.

Michael said all along to look past Dr. Murray and that he did not pay Dr. Murray.

Michael has no recollection of the propofol cover story.

The house was robbed and Michael was murdered!

The security system was disabled and required repair due to the damage caused that night!

Cash, jewelry, and computer hard drives containing Michael's unpublished work were stolen that night.

According to La Toya's statements above the lights were shut off and phone lines cut.

Does this sound like an accident caused by the "never seen a moment in jail" Dr. Murray.

I hope this wakes people up. If the most well known person on the planet can be killed in plain sight and covered up, what is next?

Last Edited by on Jun 22, 2011 10:02 AM
Carmen68
727 posts
Jun 22, 2011
10:26 AM
Thank you, Bonnie, for the updates. Thanks to everyone else who contributed to this thread with thoughts and opinions. I would like to add that in the "This Is Not It" fan testimonies, some fans also observed the increasing number of security guards outside Michael's Carolwood house in the days before he died, as well as BEING CUT OFF FROM HIM IMMEDIATELY AFTER HE CONFIDED HIS FEARS AND THE PRESSURES HE WAS UNDER.

I think it's safe to say we, the public, have not been given the whole story, nor have we been given the truth. I also think it's safe to say that there has been a cover up. In my personal opinion, and this is only my opinion, people very high up in law enforcement, the music industry and possibly even in politics are fully aware of the truth. I also believe the mafia and its Illuminati connections (according to Wes Penre and other sources, the mafia works with and is a part of Illuminati activity) were involved in Michael's death.

Of course, all those responsible are most likely sitting back quite confidently and thinking and saying, "Prove it."

~Carmen~

Last Edited by on Jun 22, 2011 10:28 AM
Irina
1014 posts
Jun 22, 2011
10:31 AM
Well put Bonnie, Carmen. I agree.

edited to add:
I recall the fan testimonies you cite, Carmen. Michael was being cut off, isolated from all sides. By all appearances he could not physically get away, even if he wanted to :((((((((((((((((((((

Last Edited by on Jun 22, 2011 10:56 AM
HTW
333 posts
Jun 22, 2011
11:51 AM
Hi Bonnie, Carmen and Irina,

I agree with what you put so well above and I feel the same !!
I have been thinking for a long time now if I should speak something out and believe me that I really have and I want to add something now.

Like always Bonnie I leave it up to you to perhaps delete it . I do not want to endanger you as you sit right there - though "they" are everywhere - and I want to remind you that ALL THAT I SAY HERE I DO IN MY OWN RESPONSIBILITY!! THIS IS ONLY MY RESPONSIBILITY, NO ONE ELSE´S !!

So, coming back to your second paragraph of your post above , Carmen, about the people behind Michael´s murder what has become clear to hopefully almost the whole world, I want to say that Michael had told me some names of people back in 2009 that are involved in his death.
When I asked him if there were also other people involved he said that this goes up to people in up to very high positions and that I would not know them and he would not tell me their names - perhaps because he knew that I might open up one day.
He warned me as well and said that they are very dangerous people and that I should be careful for my life , also with the lectures. You never know who shows up.

Okay, now it is out, perhaps it helps somehow....

IT´S ALL FOR L.O.V.E
Thank you
Ute

Last Edited by on Jun 22, 2011 12:29 PM
Carmen68
728 posts
Jun 22, 2011
3:08 PM
Hi Ute. Thank you for your feedback.

The people I am thinking of are nameless and faceless to the general public. Some would be people whom we've heard of and perhaps seen, but I want you to think about the cover artwork on Michael's "Blood on the Dance Floor" album. The background 'clouds' and poofs of smoke actually are symbolic to me of shadowy, faceless and nameless figures.

It is the people who are extremely high up in hierarchy and in positions of power who will shield, protect and cover up for those lower on the rungs.

If the public wants the truth to come out - not just for and regarding Michael, but in other areas - the public is going to have to start hacking away at the pyramid structure. I will be posting some videos within the next few days that will illuminate (pardon the pun) what I'm referring to.

Love,
Carmen
sdparanormal
1295 posts
Jun 22, 2011
3:21 PM
I agree, this goes way beyond the corporate entities involved.

In a channeled session with Marilyn Monroe, she referred to them as the "dark people who lurk around". Obviously Marilyn died in 1962 so the specific names would be different, but the structure is the same. The similarities between the two cases are quite striking.

IMHO,
Bonnie
HTW
335 posts
Jun 22, 2011
4:44 PM
Hi Carmen,

thank you for yours as well. I agree Carmen.
And I agree on that the pyramid structure needs to be brought down.
But I am convinced that the whole truth will come out in any case.

It is amazing how everything is putting together here.
First there was the theme of " Billie Jean ", now comes up (cover of ) "Blood On The Dancefloor" which symbolic meaning we briefly had discussed on the board once as well. Some days ago I was led to a video with a song, not one of Michael´s that starts with Michael´s words from " SCREAM " : DECEIVE - INVEIGLE - OBFUSCATE " and INVEIGLE being the prominent word of that three.
And now seems that "Thriller" is adding.

Hi Bonnie,

it is interesting that Marilyn Monroe referred to "them" as the "dark people who lurk around".
Here is a line from Michael´s Thriller : ".....and something evil´s lurking in the dark."
Irina and me discussed the meaning of " Thriller " just recently and the message of Thriller fits here absolutely.
Perhaps you, Irina would like to add it.

Warmly,
Ute

Last Edited by on Jun 22, 2011 5:42 PM
A
162 posts
Jun 22, 2011
5:11 PM
I have been reading all the comments with great interest and care because I do have my own thoughts on the subject. For two years since Michael died there have never been a day that I do not think of him, not just once but several times in the day. This connection to him in death is very strong. My intuition told me that Michael's death was masterminded, involving forces unknown to most people. Indeed, all the conditions were set up and guaranteed to have him succomb to this type of death. Certain things are going to be impossible to prove by the judicial system because they can not measure these things or prove them. The villains maybe known but it will be difficult or impossible to prove their action because of what they use to kill Michael... I believe what happened on June 25, is not simple and is not limited to Dr Murray...There were dark forces at work and Murray was also there, did they work through him, to accomplish what they wanted? All of us, in here have some knowledge of the metaphysics and how forces can be manipulated...I do know that what happened to Michael involved many layers. Latoya is right. One thing I know for sure, the dark forces took his life but not his beautiful soul.
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With L.O.V.E, Anne
sdparanormal
1297 posts
Jun 22, 2011
6:20 PM
Well said Anne.

As a light worker I can tell you that we do not need a system to shed our light on dark forces. This is our purpose for being here.

Hugs,
Bonnie
VeronicaR
30 posts
Jun 22, 2011
6:58 PM
For me right from the beginning there has always been one name that has stood out from all of the others in relation to this. At the end of the day the one's responsible for this will have to pay a price. It's like the rest of us, there is a price to pay for what we put out be it good deeds or as in the case of what has happened to Michael and his family, evil deeds.

Last Edited by on Jun 22, 2011 7:03 PM
Carmen68
731 posts
Jun 22, 2011
7:54 PM
I hope I may post this in this thread, even though it is not entirely on topic. Ute has mentioned lyrics from "Thriller," and I believe Irina may have as well in one of our many previous thread topics.

Regarding “Thriller,” I think Michael would want to give proper song writing credit where it’s due, and in this case, Rod Temperton wrote the lyrics to the song known as “Thriller.” While the song may play in some people's heads and may seem symbolic to them of something regarding Michael's life and/or death, I do want to remind everyone that the lyrics are NOT from Michael Jackson. They are from ROD TEMPERTON.





The original version of “Thriller” was, however, written by Michael Jackson and was called “Starlight Sun.” If you listen closely to the lyrics, they are actually not down-beat, depressing, or dark in nature. Listen carefully. Rod Temperton’s re-interpretation was much more ghoulish, scary, spooky, better for a music video, and it certainly gave Vincent Price a magic moment!




I just felt the need to interject this distinction between Michael Jackson's and Rod Temperton's song writing, and give proper credit where it's due. Mr. Temperton, to the best of my knowledge, did not re-write "Thriller" with Iluminati forces in mind. I could be wrong, but I rather doubt it.

Love,
Carmen

Edited to Add: The lyrics "All across the nation, there's always people trying to pull you down" are about the most negative or 'down' lyrics in the song, but they are countered repeatedly by more positive lyrics. The song to me is upbeat, positive and hopeful.

Last Edited by on Jun 22, 2011 8:06 PM
Mango8
25 posts
Jun 23, 2011
3:02 AM
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Starting over by LA TOYA
by Lid Lily on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 at 1:25pm

Original source from Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/notes/lid-lily/starting-over-by-latoya/10150214342682333

Prologue

- She didn’t want to write her first book , Jack Gordon made her do it.

- Jack Gordon controlled her for a decade.

- 2003 interview with Larry King made her want to help other women in the same situation.

- 2007/2008 she decides to write the book she wants to tell her family first so that they don’t get the wrong idea. Before she can Michael calls Katherine and says to her that Randy told her that Latoya was writing a book and Katherine says to Michael not to believe Randy.

Chapter 1: He's Going to Kill You

- 1993 incident of Gordon beating her.

- She says Michael knew Gordon was dangerous through Dileo and few years ago warned her that he’s going to kill her.

- She says Michael was frightened of Gordon.

Chapter 2: I Wish I Could Have Your Life

- Talks about how no one from outside knew or saw the abuse she received

- Talks about meeting Jack Gordon

- She talks about her JW raising made her trusting people

- Insert Michael going door to door as JW

- Talks about how Gordon started to work for Joe, how she wanted to be independent and leave Joe’s management and how Gordon became her manager.

Chapter 3: Illusions of Freedom

- She calls Joe a good starter manager.

- 1987 trip to Japan was Gordon her manager.

- Gordon takes her passport and controls her.

- Insert Michael she says that she believed Michael went through the same things as her and became a victim as wolves targeted and exploited him. Again effects of religious beliefs mentioned.

Chapter 4: A Smile for the Public

- Talks about mind games that Gordon was playing with her such as beating her ant hen saying that he didn’t beat her.

- Believes that Gordon gave her mind-altering drugs

- Blames her live performances on Gordon because he didn’t let her practice on them as he was afraid that she would talk yo other people and tell them what was happening.

Chapter 5: A Brave Voice Silenced

- Talks about how she tried to tell other people what happened

- She told Gordon beating her to Amir Bayyan from Kool and the Gang, he came to her hotel room with some guys to take her, she didn’t go.

- She told to a TV personality who didn’t believe her and told to Gordon what she said

- Tito confronted Gordon.

Chapter 6: The Man Behind the Monster

- Gordon’s background was in brothels , born in one and owned several of them later on

- Talks about his business deals and her beliefs that he had ties to mobs (later says there was no evidence of such)

- FBI interviews her some time later about this mob ties and tell her that they had been smuggling diamonds and drugs using her to bypass airport security

Chapter 7: Torn from the Nest

- Talks about how Gordon distances her from her family

- Mentions Katherine’s suspicions

- Gordon badmouths Katherine calling her “not saint”, bad mouths Michael calling him “nothing”.

- Latoya talks about Michael “closest thing to God”, “unique”, “had incredible gift”, “perfect instincts” had “sensitivity and compassion”.

- Insert story of buying Neverland

- 1987 Michael is able to get a call through her although Gordon limited their communication for her to come and be in TWYMMF video. Says she was supposed to be the lead girl in video but Katherine said it was inappropriate for her to be Michael’s love interest again. Oh and apparently she was to be the lead girl in Thriller video and again it was vetoed by Katherine.

- Compares Dileo to Gordon and their controlling style of management. reportedly Dileo said “ All I have to do is wind Michael up, point him in the direction I want him to go and he does it”.

- 1988 Donald Trump wants to do shows with Michael in Atlantic city, asks for Gordon and Latoya to broker the deal. Gordon forced her to get Michael to commit, Michael would say he’d do it but phone line goes dead. Dileo calls and says he’s not doing the shows. Dileo poisoned Michael against Gordon.

- Mentions Michael was also being isolated from family, says that Bill Bray was keeping people away and says she doesn’t believe it was Michael’s wish , she says Dileo was doing it.

-1992 Hannover, she goes to meet with Michael and Katherine. Gordon goes to convince Michael of Atlantic city deal. “Even though my brother weighted almost nothing, he danced with such energy”

- She can’t bring herself telling Michael about abuse.

- Gordon makes her ask Michael about Atlantic city shows , Michael gives a vague answer about competing egos. Few weeks later Michael calls her and says Frank says that Gordon is tied to gangsters and even if one doesn’t get paid they would kill him. ( odd: a few pages before she mentions Dileo’s 89 firing , she doesn’t know the reason but says that Michael said her he didn’t trust Dileo the least bit )

- Then comes the phone call she mentioned in the beginning of the book that Michael said her to get away from Gordon or Gordon would kill her.

- Gordon convinces her that Katherine was trying to kill her.

Chapter 8: Against My Will

- Playboy photos hot

- Michael saw pictures while he was at Playboy mansion calls and says that they are great and Diana Ross also liked them

- Katherine and Jermaine was unhappy. Katherine said she wasn’t her daughter anymore. Marlon and Jackie had middle of the road opinions.

- With the increased publicity Gordon arranges for her first book deal.

Chapter 9: In Name Only

- Gordon forcing her to marry him, she says the marriage was in name only as long as it lasted

Chapter 10: I Own You

- He told her when they got married she can get an annulment in 6 months. This chapter talks about she’s asking for annulment and Gordon rejecting saying that he owns her.

- After the beating paparazzi gets the shot of her with bruised eyes.

- 1990 when Michael was in hospital with chest pains Gordon sent him black roses with Latoya’s name.

Chapter 11: A Family Further Divided

- 1991 Her book gets published and she’s performing in Paris. Gordon is having relationship with prostitutes.

- Jermaine and Farrakhan’s son visits Latoya she doesn’t tell them anything.

- Gordon breaks the deal with Moulin Rouge, declares her bankrupt so that they don’t have to pay back to the cabaret.

- Gordon keeps the news of her grandmother dying.

Chapter 12: The Puppet Master at Work

- 1993 Gordon allows Latoya to watch TV to see the criminal investigation against Michael.

- Gordon says “They are taking him down now. I knew they would. I just didn’t know when”. Later on phone he says “You guys did it”.

- Latoya asks to go on TV to protect Michael, Gordon says that he’ll arrange it. They arrive in Israel, media waiting for her. Gordon gives he a piece of paper and says “read it”.

- She says if she didn’t read it she believed that Gordon’s mob friends would kill Michael.

- She also mentions how Joe though them to do whatever they did with enthusiasm and energy and she didn’t show any emotion because she was afraid that Gordon would hurt her.

- Gordon says to media there had been 2 kidnapping attempts on Latoya financed by Michael. She says Gordon tried to extort money from Michael & his handlers saying that he would say such thing if they didn’t pay him.

- According to Latoya 1993 Bert Fields – Michael’s lead attorney- brings Weitzman who brings in Dileo and Branca to work on the case and Gordon was secretly meeting them. Latoya says it was Branca’s idea to settle in 1993. Latoya blames this to Branca’s firm also representing Sony and that Sony was desperate to get their hands on Michael’s catalog.

- She learns Michael’s admittance of drug dependency and checking into rehab later. She says that Michael saw her press-conference with Elizabeth Taylor when he was in rehab.

Chapter 13: Living in Hell

- She says that she didn’t know her family’s attempts to reach to her and save her.

- She says Gordon damaged her reputation.

- Talks about Psychic Friends Network and Playboy video

- She starts to disobey Gordon. She does an interview without him knowing and keeps the money. She went to shopping without telling Gordon. She starts copying contact information from Gordon’s Rolodex.

Chapter 14: The Beginning of the End

- 1996 Latoya is thinking about leaving Gordon. Tells about how she got a Bible, tells about how she saved the money but lost it. Gordon solicited Mike Tyson to have sex with her etc.

- She says at this time Gordon wanted her to do strip shows at a club he would call “The Jackson’s Strip Club” in Florida. She refuses.

- Gordon tells her that she will do pornography (sex with 4 men for $15M), that’s the straw.

- He says if she’s not doing it he’ll get Brandi – Jackie’s daughter. Latoya says he was trying to go after her before, trying to bring her to Paris to be a model

- She asks for her passport and gets it after a fight. ( Note: I can’t understand this request, she was in New York at the time)

Chapter 15: Risking It All

- She’s trying to find the right time to escape

- May 3 1996 when Gordon is taking a shower she calls Randy. Randy gets Katherine and Joe in a conference call. Joe tells Randy to go to New york and bring Latoya home.

- Randy comes (with their cousin Tony) and Latoya leaves with only her bible, passport and DAT tape that had all of the music for her live show

Chapter 16: Free at Last, Free at Last

- NY to LA plane gets rerouted to Las Vegas. She talks about plane landing and making it out the airport.

- Insert memories of Jackson variety show

- Her house in Las Vegas later turns out to be in Gordon’s name.

Chapter 17: Baby Steps

- Katherine tells her to come to Hayvenhurst but Latoya can’t because she still believes that what Gordon told her that Katherine wants to kill her.

- Randy says they would take her to a doctor to file a report of abuse, get a restraining order and file for divorce.

- Gordon controlled all her money and assets etc. She only had $27,000

- Gordon calls her says that he loves her, he’s sorry, he won’t hit her again, asks her to come back and says he will give her all her money and accounts.

- She couldn’t find a lawyer to take her divorce case because of Gordon’s connections. Jermaine recommends her a “great attorney” he knows: Brian Oxman.

- After the divorce case starts she starts getting threatening calls from Gordon.

Chapter 18: Starting Over

- Her experiences makes her understand manipulation and abuse in Michael’ life.

- She had no contact with people from outside world (except for the food delivery people) and only Gordon called her.

- Talks about how she had to do everything herself and adds their life in Gary and the changes in their life once Jackson 5 become famous.

- She left her condo a year and half later she left Gordon to attend a family get together after Jackie’s wife died.

- She says she kept her distance from her family because she wanted to protect them from Gordon and she wanted to stand on her own.

- Insert positive opinions about Joe, his strength, skills and work ethic he taught them. she changed her opinion about Joe, says Michael changed his opinion later on too. Michael said he wished he had more of Joseph's strength in him.

- She says Joseph spanked them but it was the norm at the time they grew up.

- She believes if Michael was co-managed by Joseph he would still be alive.

Chapter 19: A Family Reunion and a Face-Off in Court

- Jackson family comes to support Latoya in her divorce case against Gordon. It was the first time she was seeing her family in years. Michael was doing History tour wasn’t there and she hadn’t yet seen him.

- Says that Gordon picked a judge he wanted , made her family leave the courtroom.

- Gordon lies about her saying that she was a sleaze (as she did Playboy), said she hid money, made her take drug and psychological tests.

- She gets divorced in 1998 by only getting the Las Vegas condo, Gordon gets everything else, and doesn’t pay her the $350,000 he’s ordered to pay.

Chapter 20: Rebuilding a Life

- Gordon leaves her with debt, unpaid taxes etc.

- Finds out that Gordon still arranger performances in her name and took the advances so she faced with lawsuits and more debts.

- This also caused her not to be able to book any more appearances.

- Talks about Oxman telling her to stay in bankruptcy and how she wasn’t able to buy a house or a car.

Chapter 21: Learning to Trust Again

- Talks about how she no longer wanted to be in the music business but wanted to be like a manager etc. says she no longer wanted to work in America, her goal was to work in Paris and London.

- Gets another bad legal advice and her bankruptcy is extended another 7 years , so she wasn’t able to get her royalties longer. She says she got back her royalties in April 2011.

- She meets Jeffre Phillips who is a friend of Jermaine. They form Ja-Tail (Just another timely adventure in life) Films in 1999.

- Jeffre worked with Michael when he did the marketing for Sony in 80s.

Chapter 22: Free the World

- 2001 World Trade Center attack

- She says Michael was supposed to attend a meeting at 9:00AM at the top of World Trade Center on September 11 but he didn’t go because he was so tired. If he went he would have died in the attack.

- The family leaves with tour busses.

- Latoya writes a song “free the world”, she records it, the reactions were positive.

- That’s what made her return too music and start recording Starting Over.

- 2002 they try to get a record deal but hear stuff like “she has no talent”, “she can’t sing and dance” etc. They couldn’t get a deal. They go to radios to play a song so that it would become popular and that they would get a record deal, radios refuse to play the songs.

- She says she had to put aside the album with the events about Michael surfaced.

Chapter 23: A Dirty Business

- She reconnected with Michael in 2002. (Note: That’s quite some time, the latest conversation she mentioned with Michael was in 1992 - unless she omitted stuff).

- She lists through what happened in regards to Michael between the time she left Gordon (1996) and when they reconnected (2002).

- She talked about Michael with Katherine. She met Paris in 1998 (but not Michael).

- Talks about Michael’s parenting. kids only watched educational TV programming, they weren’t allowed to watch news accounts about Michael. Michael never told her why he limited their access to outside world. She assumes it was to give them normal life and made them know him as only their father and not superstar.

- She says she was worried if such secluded upbringing made them vulnerable.

- Michael also limited the music the kids listened. At that time Paris was only allowed to listen to “Butterflies”.

- Latoya again says she had no direct contact with Michael at this time.

- Mentions Michael’s troubles with Sony and catalog. Says Michael fired Branca in 1990 after Geffen told him Branca had to much control.

- 1995 Branca urges Michael to merge ATV with Sony. She says this partnership became problematic as Michael was an artist first and businessman second and he wasn’t motivated for a quest for profit.

- Talks about Michael’s masters and how they would not revert to Michael till 2009 and she says she doesn’t know if Michael got them or Sony kept them. (Note: Estate got them back).

- Says Michael had no concept of money.

- Talks about Sony, Invincible, promotion issues. Says Sony purposely sabotaged the album so that it wouldn’t sell so that he would be forced to sell his half of catalog.

- She watches Michael’s press conference on TV about Sony and says that he wore a bulletproof vest at that conference. (Note: they haven’t reconnected yet).

Chapter 24: Family Reunion

- 2002 Latoya is called to a family meeting, Michael was using prescription painkillers and family believed it was getting out of control.

- She says Michael wouldn’t taken prescription drugs on his own and he was given it by a doctor after he fell off the stage and injured himself when touring with Jacksons. He forms a dependency but gets cleaned in 1993 by going to rehab.

- She says chronic injuries from lifetime performing and stress again turned him to painkillers and he again had dependency issues by 2002.

- Family decided to confront Michael and do an intervention. She says she hadn’t seen Michael for a decade and this intervention would be the first time she would see him.

- Family goes to Neverland, security doesn’t let them in, they jump the gate. Tito enters into the house through an open window and opens the doors for the rest.

- Michael sees them and acts like he didn’t know that they were at the house. Latoya says she doesn’t know if it was a simple miscommunication or someone wanted to keep them out.

- Michael send Prince and Paris with the nanny and then goes into Blanket’s room (who was 3 months at the time) to attend to him. They have a meeting in Blanket’s room.

- Michael refuses to see the doctors ( a physician and psychiatrist) and says there was nothing wrong with him. Latoya says he was fine, alert and relaxed, looked good physically and happy with his kids. After several hours he convinces them that he was good. Family plans to take turns staying with Michael at Neverland for next few weeks but they weren’t able to follow their plan. She says it took Michael several years before he got the help he needed.

- In this meeting Michael also talks about the people in business. He reportedly says “ Certain people in this business are no good. They take things from you, they rob you. don’t ever trust them”. “LaToya you can’t trust them, they are no good, they don’t really care about us” “ They just want to get everything they can out of you and milk you and use you and toss you away at the ened of the day”.

- Next time she saws Michael is news report about Berlin Balcony incident.

- Talks about how fans called “Let’s see the new one” and Michael wanted to please them and he had a good grip.

Chapter 25: The Quiet Before the Storm

- 2003 Latoya does Larry King Live show.

- She receives quite an attention due to the show. She forms Ja-Tail Records and signs a distribution deal.

- 2003 Family day with Hawaiian theme and everyone dressed accordingly (except Michael and his kids). This is the first time since intervention in Neverland she saw Michael.

- April 2003 she runs into Michael shopping at Beverly Hills, she goes in to talk to Michael. They leave all together with Michael’s children wearing Spiderman masks. She says the children understood the need for the masks and loved them, it was like playing dress-up everyday.

- Michael says he can’t go and have dinner with them as he was going to studio, drops them by their car, Layoya gives Paris a pink rabbit as a present.

- June 2003 she would be presenting an award at BET awards. Producers ask her help to get Michael to give an award to James Brown. Then they get him on their own as apparently Michael didn’t know Latoya was a presenter until she went into his dressing room.

- Backstage Michael getting ready. Michael called perfume “smell”, they were together for 30 minutes, they took a picture together. Michael goes on stage. They spend another 30 minutes in the dressing room with James Brown, his wife etc.

- Michael takes Latoya into a closet and tells her that he misses her, he loves her and that he’s glad that he got to see her.

Chapter 26: The Conspiracy is Revealed

- 2003 Joseph calls her to say that Neverland is being raided.

- No one in the family knew where Michael was. They later find out he was in Las Vegas and they went to his hotel.

- They find Michael all dressed up for video shot but visibly upset in a wrecked suite. Paris tells Katherine that Michael broke the lamp, threw the food and turned over the statue. Apparently when Michael got the call from Neverland security about the raid, he got very angry.

- Michael says to Latoya “I didn’t do anything. I promise you. I’m being framed. All of this is a setup. you gotta believe me”.

- Michael also mentions that he is even afraid to walk around his own yard because he was afraid that he would be killed. He says he knows who’s behind the framing of him. Latoya asks who, Michel says “ they want my catalog, they want my publishing, they’ll do whatever it takes to get it. they are going to kill me. I hate my life. I don’t even want the catalog anymore”

Chapter 27: Facing Down Allegations as a Family

- Little funny story about how Paris will wave to paparazzi to be friendly.

- Mirage asks Michael leave the hotel due to press disturbing other guests at the hotel.

- Michael has reservations about surrendering to the police.

- She released her single Just Wanna Dance under her nickname Toy tops the charts at 19.

- Michael’s trial starts and she again thinks its not appropriate time to release the album.

Chapter 28: The Final Days of Neverland

- Michael mentions Latoya “when this trial is over. I’m never ever coming back to Neverland again. they invaded my privacy. They ruined my entire life. I hate this place. I can’t stand it. I never want to see it again. Never. I’ll never come back here”.

- Says Michael was adamant when he made a decision.

- Describes Neverland, animals, trains. movie theater, children coming to visit. Dreamworks stealing Neverland logo.

- Says after the raid Michael stayed at one of the bungalows. Family stayed with him at Neverland during prelim and trial.

- Mentions “field trips” of Michael’s kids around the property to the “beach” (a pool of water with white sand around it) and to library.

Chapter 29: The Trial of a Lifetime

- 2004 start of preliminary this is the first time Latoya had the chance to sit down and talk with Michael one on one for the first time in more than a decade.

- Michael says she doesn’t have to say anything, he knows her heart and that he knew Gordon made her do those things. She says Michael had forgiven her long ago and didn’t want to discuss it further.

- She says that she later realized that Michael also had manipulators and understood what she went through very well and that made him forgive her so easily.

- Says that Michael hid his fears from his children keeping upbeat and smiling around them.

- Jumping on the roof of SUV to please fans , being misunderstood.

- August 2004 family get together for Michael’s birthday. First time Latoya saw Michael since pretrial in January. Michael calls Joe to sit next to him, Latoya says Joe was a special force of power for Michael and Michael felt Joe protected him.

- Again Latoya holds her album.

- January 2005 trial starts. Family returns to Neverland. She says dressing all white was her idea.

- Mentions Michael had made peace with Joe.

- Says Michael was in despair, he didn’t want to eat or take care of himself. They pleaded with him to at least take vitamins. She says most of the time Michael stayed in his bungalow alone.

- Prince of Bahrain during trial says to Michael he can always stay there to rest and get away from everything.

- Gordon dies from cancer on 2005.

- Verdict day. Michael nervous, says that he’s leaving US and never coming back.

- says Michael have been wearing bulletproof vest since 2001 (when we went head to head with Sony / Mottola). Before trial Michael reportedly said “If I get off, I’m going to be assassinated”.

- says that Michael was a zombie after he heard the verdict, drained, distant. She says that the experience marked him and he believe that he would be assassinated that day.

- She says that the trial had made grave damage to him, a crack formed in his spirit, she says he lost his will to fight, and he was like he was lost.

- Michael leaves US as soon as he gets his passport back from court and lives like a vagabond for 1.5 years.

- Mention of Fox news, again Michael’s catalog.

- Latoya says that during the time Michael was gone, he distanced himself from everyone in the family and no one spoke to him.

- says Michael didn’t want to perform anymore, afraid that he would be assassinated on stage and wanted to produce and direct movies with Peter Jackson.

Chapter 30: A New Lease on Life

- Latoya says that whenever she saw footage of Michael on TV after the trial she tried to examine it to understand his health, mental stage, emotional well-being etc.

- She also says that she started to investigate the conspiracy Michael told her in Mirage (the day Neverland raided).

- She throws herself back to her career. reworking on her album, Armed and Famous show (most of the chapter is about that), Celebrity Big Brother

- She says that the skills she learned at that show as she looked for clues as to who killed Michael.

Chapter 31: The Final Days

Mid 2006. Michael fires most of his staff including at Neverland and closes down the main house.

- Grace was acting his manager and this worried Latoya as the wrong person can have the power to destroy him in such vulnerable state.

- December 2006 James Brown dies, Michael comes to US.

- Latoya wasn’t united with Michael but heard about him through Katherine.

- Jermaine introduced Michael to Tohme who later revealed to have a troubled past.

- says Tohme was like Gordon , isolated and controlled Michael. Says Tohme kept family away from Michael.

- enter Leonard Rowe. January 2009 a concert promoter offers $15M for one show (Allgood concert) flies to LA to talk to Michael.

- Latoya repeats Leonard Rowe’s book Tohme doesn’t meet with him for a while. Tohme says Michael cannot do it because he was doing negotiations for a $300M deal (AEG TII deal).

- says AEG was paying Tohme $100,000 monthly salary and he was therefore biased.

- claims Phillips got Michael to rehire Dileo.

- in a moment of clarity in March 2009, Michael asks Leonard Rowe to take over as his business manager.

- Reportedly Michael said he didn’t know what he signed because their attorney drew up the contract, he agreed to 10 shows and not 50 shows.

- April 2009 , Michael meets with Leonard Rowe who brought Joe with him. Latoya says that Joe hadn’t seen Michael for 3 years. Payment in dollars versus pounds and scalping of tickets is discussed.

- April 2009 Julien’s Auctions of Michael’s items. Michael didn’t know it, Katherine told him about it. Michael says everything was being put in storage, Tohme says it was storage agreement.

- Mentions the Michael’s confiding in June Gatlin (she heard it at Today show)

- Mid May meeting with Phillips. Katherine, Joe, Leonard Rowe and Michael present. Joe and Leonard stood up to Randy Phillips. Joe gets up starts shouting I will not let you steal from my son. Michael began laughing. She says it was because Michael was happy his father was there to protect him from vultures.

- She says Leonard told her that Michael was at times animated at the meeting but also seemed like he didn’t care about details, he wasn’t acting perfectionist and Leonard felt like Michael knew for one reason or another he would never perform those concerts.

- Leonard pushed out, replaced by Dileo.

- Leonard couldn’t intervene about Michael’s health and and in regards to his painkiller dependency.

- Latoya heard all these through Joe.

- Latoya spent time with Michael for the first time in May 14, 2009 since his 2005 trial. that’s also the last time she sees him.

- Latoya says he was excruciatingly thing.

- She asks over and over if he was fine, Michael says he was fine and the rehearsals were going good.

Chapter 32: The Worst Day of My Life

- Joe calls her, tells her to get to Michael’s house saying that a fan told him he was sick.

- She calls Jeffre , he says that Michael is doing it to get out of the shows. “Michael is known to have fake illness and injury.. “

- Joe calls again and says there’s an ambulance, tells her to go to hospital instead.

- Latoya calls Trent , Katherine’s assistant, they are on their way to the hospital. Katherine tells her Michael is dead.

- She arrives hospital, a nurse tells her Michael isn’t dead.

- She goes to the room where Katherine is with Prince, Paris and Blanket on her lap. The kids are screaming and crying. Dileo is in the room. Trent tells her Michael is gone and Katherine again tells her that Michael is dead.

Chapter 33: Trying to Make Sense of the Tragedy

- She says she immediately thought “who killed Michael?” and not “how did he die?”. in the last 3 chapters Latoya constantly goes back to 2003 when Michael said he would be murdered for his catalog.

- Children want to go see Michael.

- Paris screams Murray is the best multiple times and says she doesn’t know what happened. She says she wants to die and be with her daddy.

- Paris says Michael was always cold, freezing. He would sit by the fireplace and fall asleep there. Paris says Michael always cried and they (the kids) watched to make sure everything was fine. Paris says Michael was freezing and needed a doctor and then turned the lights and they were in the dark. Latoya asks they turned the lights out? Paris says yes and they cut the phones off.

- Paris says Michael told her to be strong and said to her she would have to take care of Prince and Blanket if something happens to him. He told her that she would have to be the mother.

- Latoya asks when Michael said this. Paris says last night before Michael went to rehearsal She was arguing with Prince and Michael said her to stop fighting with her brother and “I’m not always going to be here and you are going to have to be the lady and watch over them”.

- The children wants to see Michael, 2 nurses take them to the room Michael was says it would be therapeutic for them.

- She says Michael was skinny (skin and bones) but looked peaceful as if he was sleeping.

- Kids talked to their dad, left the room calm. Saying good-bye helped them.

- Latoya goes to find Dr. Murray. She couldn’t learn anything from him. He gave her excuses.

- Kathy Hilton comes to the hospital with her sister. Latoya takes them to see Michael. Kathy Hilton tells her to collect everything she see that Michael written down.

Chapter 34: The Investigation Intensifies

- Michael Amir calls Latoya to say that Tohme fired all security and asks her to come to the house. Michael Amir vowed to not leave the house until someone from the family came.

- Police had been in the house all day. Jacksons wasn’t allowed inside the house until detectives said it was okay.

- 11:30 Latoya, Jeffre, Randy and Ron Boyd (family friend police officer) arrive to Carolwood.

- 12:00 Katherine and Trent came. Later Janet came.

- Michael Amir lets them in.

- Latoya says the house was hot, asks Michael Amir he says Michael kept the heat on because he was freezing. Latoya brain thinking: is it because Michael was freezing or is it to give a different time of death?

- Michael Amir tells them what happened. Leads them into Murray’s room (the room Michael died in). Michael Amir says he didn’t saw anything suspicious last night.

- Latoya searches the room with her eyes as she’s trained as a police officer. Outside the door what looked like Michael’s last meal on top of a dresser (soup and crumbs from a sandwich), pajama top on the floor(paramedics cut it off when trying to save Michael, IV stand on the foot of bed, 3 oxygen tanks in the corner.

- She asks if there was cameras in the room. There wasn’t. Remembers back to 2003 Mirage and Michael saying he would be killed for his catalog.

- Michael Amir then shows them Michael’s actual bedroom. Room was a wreck, torn to pieces, clothes on the floor, dressers turned over etc. Latoya asks if it was always like this. Michael Amir says he doesn’t know because Michael didn’t allow anyone in that room. Latoya brain thinking : this is too messy to be police doing, who did this what they were looking for? suspects people were in there for cash and jewelry Michael kept.

- Remembers what Kathy Hilton said. Says that Michael was a compulsive note taker. so she finds post it notes in Michael’s actual bedroom.

- Notes said

---- I hate John Branca

---- John Branca stole lots of money from me and continuously double & triple billed me

---- I hate Tohme Tohme

---- Randy Phillips & Dr. Tohme are not flying with me. No! No! No! Ever !

---- Call Joseph

---- Get Joseph’s help to get these people out of my life.

---- I don’t want Frank Dileo back in my life.

---- I only agreed to 10 shows

---- Tell Tohme Tohme to give me back my cars

---- AEG is pressuring me to go see Dr.David H. Slavit for a physical.

- Latoya says they reviewed hundreds of notes and learned about whom Micheal feared. Later she says they got a letter from Estate asking them to return anything they might have taken from the house.

- She says they weren’t even able to organize Michael’s possessions and set aside any keepsakes for the children and doesn’t know where those items are now.

Chapter 35: A Family Loss.

- family disagreements about memorial. Ideas about doing it at Washington monument and Los Angeles Coliseum.

- AEG offers Staples center + Nokia theater.

- Latoya says AEG made money off memorial by charging media for box seats, news trucks parking, concession stands and licensing of the broadcasting of the memorial.

- Latoya wanted Michael to be brought by a procession of gilded horse drawn carriages, fanfare of horns, carried between rows of uniformed guards and an announcer saying “please rise for the king”. She wanted an open casket.

- Katherine vetoed anything showy and wanted a closed casket and relatively simple service.

- Private viewing before the memorial. Paris attends with Latoya, Randy and Rebbie. Puts the necklace on his wrist, places 2 colored stones on his chest.

- mentions Paris speech at memorial and how it humanized Michael.

- most of the brothers wanted to bury Michael at Neverland. Latoya fights against it. Finally they settle on Forest Lawn. She says mausoleum was selected due to it’s beauty and security (to protect Michael’s body).

Chapter 36: Inside the Conspiracy

- says AEG offered the brothers to take over Michael’s dates at O2. Latoya says that she though this was a cover up and didn’t want them to focus on Michael’s death.

- finds it odd that AEG didn’t express concern over Michael’s death and seemed like they stood to make more money with Michael dead then alive.

- Latoya says 100 hours wasn’t all Michael. AEG only recorded last 3 rehearsals.

- questions why they worked with Sony rather than their own Regal Entertainment group. she says why bring Sony in unless a larger deal was in the offing perhaps involving Michael’s catalog. (Hello! This is it soundtrack and release of TII as DVD and Blu-ray).

- Jeffree who did the show and people who worked with Michael said to her that Michael never did complete run-through of any song. So she says Michael wasn’t well and could not have done those shows and AEG should have known that Michael wasn’t well.

- complains that Michael didn’t receive producer credit but the people he hated and fired before did.

- asks who called the tour “this is it?”, calls it a sick joke.

- says many people didn’t offer condolences to the family

- lists the projects and the money earned and says that Estate should have paid the debt quickly.

- some Jackson family members didn’t want to launch an investigation into Michael’s death. Latoya says she can’t let it go.

- Latoya says that she believes Michael would have wanted his mother to be the executor.

- says in July Branca and Joel Katz came with Michael’s will and they knew nothing about the will before.

- Latoya says they wanted a family member be on the board of Michael’s Estate. Executors didn’t agree with this.



Chapter 37: A Legend is Laid to Rest



- Latoya says she saw Michael’s body 9-10 times between memorial and funeral, talking to him, checking to see if his body was still there (she was worried that his body could be stolen)

- mentions Coroner’s office wanting to see Michael’s body again. They get hair samples and get palm print.

- talks about private memorial and burial.

- says that they got the stacked tombs on the side of the walls that the family members will eventually repose.

Chapter 38: Eyewitness Accounts of a Cover-up

- Leonard Rowe reached out to Latoya. Insert Leonard Rowe’s claims on his book here.

- Joe told her that he tried to see Michael at the last weeks but security didn’t let him in the house.

- She learned that Michael said Prince and Paris to call Granpa and he’ll know what to do and help him.

- She learned about Michael’s last night from the follower fans (TINI group), they say Michael didn’t do his usual talk with them when he left the house for rehearsals.

- mentions a meeting in Michael’s dressing room. Speculates to the maximum (I don’t know what’s said in that room but I believe..) saying them either the people realized he wouldn’t be able to do the shows or Michael told them he wouldn’t be doing the shows. Latoya says that she knows that Michael was threatening them not to show up for rehearsal and not do any shows until they cancel the 40 shows he didn’t agree to perform.

- After the meeting he goes on the stage to do 2 songs. (Note: why would he do that if he wasn’t going to do the shows?)

- Karen Faye’s talk with Dileo. Michael Bush saying Michael lost 15 pounds, a choreographer thought that he was too skinny. Latoya says Michael weighted 112 pounds and it’s incorrectly reported that he was 136 pounds.

- When he’s leaving the rehearsal Michael tells the fans “help me get out of here”.

- Again TINI people referenced with increased security “10 men lined up on both sides of gate”

- A fan walks up to her and says that the light in Michael’s room never went off that night (usually it was off in 20 minutes)

- talks about hearing Randy Phillips was at the house when Michael arrived, finds it odd that he was going to Michael’s house in the morning

- questions TII movie and how fast it was done , like it was already planned

- why Prince was called to help when there was adult staff in the house

- she concludes that she believes that Murray is the “fall guy for a much larger plot”

Chapter 39: Starting Over Again

- Jeffre tells her that she needs to get on with her life. She starts making appearances.

- Says Katherine is strained and quickly fading away.

- says Estate hasn’t asked the kids if they wanted any keep-sakes from their father. and claims Estate have been auctioning of Michael’s stuff such as his furniture, memorabilia and his handwritten notes. she says she has been buying some items.

- Latoya says that Michael’s death divided the family and they do not support her in her fight. She hopes to repair relationships between them down the road.

The short URL for this post is: http://bit.ly/joyLsr

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I am deeply concerned that fans are rating her book as negative. Half of them are Branca supporters. Quite disgusted.

Bonnie - is there anyway you can contact La Toya?

I'm so frustrated that many can't see this. This is so obvious and people are ignoring this. :(
marleneho
181 posts
Jun 23, 2011
6:44 AM
Thank you Mango for this information. It is very helpful.

Love,

Mar
Madelon
22 posts
Jun 25, 2011
6:53 AM

Last Edited by on Jun 25, 2011 2:37 PM
Carmen68
737 posts
Jun 25, 2011
9:19 AM
Thank you Mango8 for the rundown. I will review your list and highlights a bit later, when I have time to focus on it and give it the attention it deserves.

La Toya, unfortunately, lost some of her credibility and support from Michael's fans many years ago when she supported the child molestation allegations. As Michael's career and reputation never fully recovered from the 1993 allegations and accusations, La Toya's image and reputation among Michael's fans never fully recovered, either. She went live on a television show revealing certain aspects of Michael's marriage to Lisa Marie, and those revelations, whether true or not, were the equivalent of yet another betrayal of Michael in the eyes of some of his fans. It's most unfortunate, because now her past mistakes or errors in judgment are backfiring and being used against her at a time when she may be doing the best she can and the most she can to try to help Michael. Instead of seeing her revelations as a form of redemption and La Toya trying to make things right with Michael, some of Michael's fans and supporters may see her as "another Jackson family member trying to make a fast buck" or "trying to cash in on Michael" in some way.

Also at issue is the fact that La Toya is possibly revealing things that many of Michael's fans and supporters are unable or unwilling to accept. The truth may be too hard for them to deal with and accept - at least, for now. The reactions to La Toya's book may parallel the divisions within Michael's fan base.

For anyone wishing to read her book, I can only suggest that you try to keep an open mind, don't pre-judge her, let her have her say, try to separate personal feelings and beliefs from hers, and understand that each of Michael's siblings and parents will see life and Michael and their relationships with him from their own unique perspectives. La Toya's book represents HER POINT OF VIEW, HER FEELINGS, HER OBSERVATIONS AND HER POINT OF REFERENCE. It is not gospel. It is not the final word. It is yet another source of possibly very valuable information, and her presentation of facts will have to be compared and contrasted with other (reputable) sources of information.

Eventually, there will be a common thread found, in my personal opinion.

Warmly,
Carmen
sdparanormal
1310 posts
Jun 25, 2011
9:35 PM
Carmen68
740 posts
Jun 25, 2011
10:25 PM
Thank you Bonnie, for posting La Toya's interview.

I find myself wondering how the fans who think Michael is still alive and in hiding are going to react to this. It sure seems hard to believe that Michael could and would fake his death with his own family members either being fooled themselves, or in on it.

I find myself wondering how the fans who believe that Michael was always in complete control of his life and his finances are going to react to this. This implies that Michael was vulnerable in some ways and in some areas of his life.

While I respect La Toya's comment about the coroner telling her in person that the ONLY drug in Michael's system was the propofol, and that he was "totally clean," I find myself wondering how that statement compares to Section 12 of Michael's autopsy report. I will quote the report as it pertains to her remark:

Citing section 12:
1. Toxicology findings (see separate report).
A) Propofol, lorazepam, midazolam, lidocaine, diasepam and nordiazepam, identified in blood samples (see toxicology report for details).
B) Propofol, midazolam, lidocaine and ephedrine identified in urine.
C) Propofol and lidocaine identified in liver tissue.
D) Propofol identified in vitreous humor
E) Lidocaine and propofol identified in stomach contents.
********************

The coroner states on that same page that he attributes the cause of death to "ACUTE PROPOFOL INTOXICATION" and cites "other conditions contributing but not related to the immediate cause of death" as "BENZODIAZEPINE EFFECT."

In other words, as has been stated by other sources, a number of prescription medications and/or drugs considered narcotics were found in Michael's body, and the combination created what is referred to as a 'benzodiazepine effect.' Propofol was NOT the only drug in Michael's body. The question remains: How did all these drugs find their way into Michael's body, and who put them there?

I'm glad La Toya is not afraid to speak up and to speak her mind!

Thank you again!

Love,
Carmen

Last Edited by on Jun 25, 2011 10:26 PM
Carmen68
741 posts
Jun 25, 2011
10:45 PM
This news report video was released not long after Michael's death and is based on the affidavit given by Conrad Murray. I haven't studied the coroner's report well enough to know whether or not all the drugs mentioned by Murray in the affidavit were actually found and noted by the coroner. It could be that some of the medications Murray administered did not remain in Michael's body long enough to register in the toxicology reports.

That possible scenario has been speculated on by some of Michael's fans. In other words, could it be possible that certain fatal drugs were administered to Michael but done in such a way as to dissipate or be cleared from the body by the time an autopsy is performed? Could Michael have unknowingly and unwittingly been given something that he neither asked for nor wanted??? If so, I'd say that could possibly be considered murder.

It seems to me that Murray's affidavit, the coroner's report and La Toya's recollection of what the coroner said are not all in alignment. None the less, I'm glad she's speaking up.

sdparanormal
1311 posts
Jun 26, 2011
8:18 AM
Hey Carmen,

Perhaps what La Toya meant to say was the only "drugs" found in his system were those given to him that night and into the following morning. That does seem to be consistent throughout all of the documentation.

Bonnie
MlovesYou
90 posts
Jun 27, 2011
1:07 PM
Have you guys ever seen this blog by Kathy Smith? In that blog from 2009 she mentions - along the way - that Michael was angry at the concert people and wanted to cancel. This was only 2 weeks prior to his death!
http://www.kathysmith.com/blog/2009/06/



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"...be alive, be free, feel consciousness, subsciousness, being GOD..." MJ
marleneho
186 posts
Jun 27, 2011
8:08 PM
Wow Mloves,

I hope Kathy is called to the stand to testify.

Here is what Kathy says Michael said to her:

"He [Michael] told me [Kathy] about canceling an upcoming concert in London. “The people were so mean,” he said, visibly upset." “Just so mean.”

Thank you for sharing this!

Love,

Mar
Irina
1028 posts
Jun 27, 2011
10:17 PM
Adding this here. La Toya appeared on The View this past week as well.



http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/la-toya-jackson-reveals-michael-jacksons-kids-heard/story?id=13896058&singlePage=true

Last Edited by on Jun 27, 2011 10:22 PM
Carmen68
746 posts
Jun 29, 2011
7:12 PM
Excellent interview with La Toya. She's not beating around the bush. She doesn't say it directly, but she also doesn't leave much to the imagination.


 
Carmen68
747 posts
Jun 29, 2011
7:23 PM
Thank you, Irina, for posting La Toya's interview on "The View." She's more outspoken in the KTLA interview.

It's interesting that she mentions nothing about the Illuminati or secret societies. I do think Michael's children are aware of secret societies and that some of Michael's siblings are explaining some of this to them. On the IMDb Michael Jackson message board, someone who follows Paris Jackson's twitter account (assuming that's Paris's REAL account) noted that Paris had tweeted something about "secret societies," but shortly after deleted her tweets. If true, I find that very, very interesting. Twitter, of course, is essentially forever; tweets are NEVER erased from whatever central data base in which they're stored.

~Carmen~
Chaturi96
259 posts
Jun 29, 2011
9:42 PM
Irina, Carmen,
Thank you both for posting these interviews. The "Truth Vibrations" seem to be coming to the surface at a much faster rate now, mostly due to LaToya. It was surprising to hear her clearly implicating JB's involvement. I was delighted to hear it!

Also, very interesting about Paris's tweets. I wonder if a family member advised her to remove them.

Chaturi
sdparanormal
1323 posts
Jun 30, 2011
3:44 PM

Last Edited by on Jun 30, 2011 4:17 PM
HTW
343 posts
Jun 30, 2011
5:48 PM
La Toya mentioned some of the names that Michael had told me as well back in fall 2009....
Hard to hold back myself. Sometimes I feel like shouting them out.
Sometimes I feel just like screaming over all of this that has happened ...
I pray for Michael and his children, the whole family that this nightmare will end soon.

I wish we could support them more somehow...

Ute

Last Edited by on Jun 30, 2011 5:56 PM
MlovesYou
91 posts
Jun 30, 2011
10:23 PM
HERE IS AN ARTICLE WITH A REACTION OF "THE ESTATE" TO LA TOYA'S INTERVIEWS:

http://www.kansascw.com/kscw/news/ktla-latoya-jackson-michael-was-murdered,0,4184455.story

...She tells KTLA her brother was targeted for murder because of his power in the music industry.

"It was pure murder," La Toya told KTLA on Wednesday. "I don't care what anyone says. This was pure murder. This was a controversy. This was all manipulated."

She says her brother knew he was being targeted and repeatedly mentioned it to her.

La Toya believes her brother's publishing rights to a catalog of songs, including works by the Beatles, motivated his alleged killers.

"He hated the fact that he had the catalog and they were going to murder him for it. So he said, 'I don't want it, it's not worth it.' And then the other part of him would say, 'No but it's mine. I bought it outright and I'm keeping it growing. This is for my children. They can't do this to me'," La Toya said.

She says she immediately went to police following her brother's death, but they would not look at other possible suspects besides Dr. Conrad Murray, Jackson's personal physician.

La Toya says her brother's death was part of "a conspiracy" by a group of individuals, including a high-powered entertainment lawyer.

"Dr. Murray was the fall guy," La Toya said.

She has her own theories on what motivated her brother's death.

"Michael had fired John Branca. He didn't want him around," she said, adding that her brother then "hired a private investigator."

"Then he found out John Branca had smuggled? $150-million off-shore of his money and he just started investigating," she added.

"I'm not blatantly saying they killed him. This was a conspiracy to do this to him."

Michael Jackson died on June 25, 2009 after authorities say he was given a lethal dose of the powerful sedative propofol.

Conrad Murray is awaiting trial on involuntary manslaughter charges in connection with Jackson's death.

The Jackson Estate issued the following statement in response to La Toya Jackson's interview:

"The outrageous and obviously false statements made this morning by Latoya Jackson are further examples of her willingness to say anything involving her brother for attention or money. The truth is Michael appointed John Branca and John McClain as his Executors. Their success in generating unprecedented revenues for Michael's Estate coupled with their preserving, protecting and enhancing Michael Jackson's legacy speaks for itself."...

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"...be alive, be free, feel consciousness, subsciousness, being GOD..." MJ
HTW
344 posts
Jun 30, 2011
11:25 PM
Hi MlovesYou,

thank you for posting this article.

As far as I am concerned I want to say that it is in plain sight who is still trying to cover up here and manipulate the public.
Michael had not rehired these people on his own , Michael was blackmailed and this was the reason he "agreed" to these concerts and people.
Threatening and silencing people, what is their going , also deposition of the HTWF and cover up the real story, pulling all the trademarks pretending to do this for paying "Michael´s debts and to give a guarantee to his children´s well - being ", trying to sue and slander those who speak out or know the truth and all this stuff, they have been trying to sell the public for more than two years now.

NOW TIME HAS COME TO SPEAK OUT THE TRUTH!!
Who brought Michael into debts - if so high as they are pretending???
Who does really care for the well - being of his children???
PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD - WAKE UP!!
YES !!! THIS DOES SPEAK FOR ITSELF !!! They are right! But they do not see that WHAT EVER they say they out themselves. We just need to understand the words and signs here. And people will understand more and more. There is no way back for them now!
The time of covering up stories and deaths are over - where ever you look the truth is coming out more and more.
And also those people will have to face it and take their responsibility for their share in this evil, evil murder!

I believe Michael and what he has told to me!! Michael has never had a reason to lie - neither in life and above all nor in death.
This was not funny. Would he go around kidding about his murder?
They should think about that IF they utter anything anymore.
SO - WHO KEPT ON TELLING LIES?? IT IS IN PLAIN SIGHT!!
There is surely evidence that and how those people had controlled and betrayed him for almost all of his life!

I can only speak for myself , I am determined to support the truth to come out where ever I can. I cannot stand all those lies anymore.
This - no one has deserved and above all not Michael !!

And regarding their comment (see article) - If the cap fits, wear it !

Bonnie, I hope it is okay for you what I told here.
Coming closer to the trial and truth and reading more and more stories and lies again I feel like doing it.

With Love,
Ute

Last Edited by on Jul 01, 2011 6:10 AM
Chaturi96
260 posts
Jul 01, 2011
8:18 AM
Ute, You are right, of course! The truth IS coming out more & more, and faster & faster now. And IMHO, it is fine and good and appropriate for you to feel free to speak the truth here of what you know as well. I feel it is helpful at this time, for you to do that. I donot feel it is a conflict of any kind on this board.

There's my 2 cents worth.

Thank you for shareing yourself with us! <3

With love,
Chaturi
Irina
1030 posts
Jul 01, 2011
8:52 AM
Hi Ute,

I feel YOU SAID IT ALL!

I have recently come across the CNN interview with Randy from a year ago, and he was expressing pretty much the same things then as La Toya continues to do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTML-i833wo&feature=related



With Love,
Irina

Last Edited by on Jul 01, 2011 8:55 AM
Chaturi96
261 posts
Jul 01, 2011
9:07 AM
Thank you MlovesYou,
I still hold the possible theory that Peter Lopez was taken out due to something he knew or was in possession of. I still wonder if he possibly had the 'real' Will.
sdparanormal
1325 posts
Jul 01, 2011
10:06 AM
I know for a fact that La Toya is telling the truth. We have been on the same page from day one. We have talked about all of these things on this board and more. Michael informed me at the very start of this that he did not hire Dr. Murray and to look past Dr. Murray and follow the money. The BIG MONEY is being made by the estate attorneys while Katherine and Michael's children are under the control system that La Toya talks about. We talked about the will being fake and the courts unwillingness to address its authenticity. Fake will = fake estate attorneys.

I agree Peter Lopez is part of this very ugly story. He was set to come out against the "estate attorneys".

I am so proud of La Toya who is willing to risk it all for the sake of her brother and his children.

God be with you La Toya!
Bonnie

Last Edited by on Jul 01, 2011 10:09 AM
HTW
345 posts
Jul 01, 2011
10:28 AM
Michael: "First they killed me emotionally, then they set me the final shot!
It was a long hard dying...."

Yes, Bonnie, be God with La Toya!

And I agree : Fake will = fake estate attorneys !

- Ute -

Last Edited by on Jul 01, 2011 12:53 PM
Roxy
329 posts
Jul 01, 2011
3:20 PM
AMEN! God be with La Toya and everyone else who is fighting for Michael and the truth. Wishing the REAL WIll would surface...

God bless you too Bonnie for all you have done for Michael and for us.

-Jane-

Last Edited by on Jul 01, 2011 3:21 PM
Irina
1032 posts
Jul 01, 2011
7:09 PM
Hi Bonnie,

This is very interesting. I was not able to but perhaps you can embed the video.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/07/latoya-jackson-felt-michael-jackson-presence-after-death-video-interview


La Toya Jackson Says She Felt Michael's Presence After His Death



By Alexis Tereszcuk - Radar Senior Reporter

Two years after his death LaToya Jackson says she has felt her brother Michael’s presence and “it’s a good feeling.” In an exclusive interview with RadarOnline.com LaToya detailed her experience with Michael’s spirit and how it felt.

“I have felt his presence. You feel someone in the room and it’s amazing. It’s a good feeling,” she said, saying that while she didn’t actually see Michael she felt him.

Michael Jackson passed away on June 25, 2009 and his sister said she was at his house shortly after his death.

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“The lights started blinking off and on and I said ‘Michael is that you?’” LaToya recalled. “I said ok, if that’s you I want you to blink the lights a certain amount of times and it happens and it stops and I kind of felt that his presence was still there because I could feel it.”

LaToya is the author of the new book Starting Over where she writes about her family, her abusive relationship with her ex and the new beginnings she’s had.

Last Edited by on Jul 01, 2011 7:10 PM
sdparanormal
1326 posts
Jul 01, 2011
7:55 PM
Hi Irina,

Thx for posting this. They have prevented the video from being copied or embedded.

As many of you know, Michael has asked me to go the rental house so that he could gain clarity on what actually happened. This is a very tall order. I did go to the house and stood outside, but he wanted me to come in. The security gates did open twice while I was there but I did not want to be arrested for trespassing. I heard many stories from people on the street of lights going off and on and the security gates opening and closing by themselves. I still hope to be able to honor this request. Some members of this board have tried to assist with this as well.

I am happy to hear that La Toya had her own experience and that she was willing to discuss it publicly. Her statements do provide validation that the information I received is correct and that his presence is still at the house waiting for answers.

I will happily do the 3 hour drive to assist if La Toya is willing to meet me there so that we can go inside together.

Hugs,
Bonnie

Last Edited by on Jul 01, 2011 7:57 PM
sdparanormal
1327 posts
Jul 02, 2011
12:54 PM
Randy Jackson just completed a twitter session. These are his comments. You will need to start and the bottom and read your way to the top. Needless to say he agrees the will is fake, that there is a conspiracy and he too is fighting for justice.

Randy Jackson Tweets regarding Michael Jackson July 2, 2011 Ended 12:31pm PT



randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
Thank u again for being here. I know many questions didn't get answered... But there will be other times. Thank u. Love & peace. Stay strong

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
I wish I could tell u more, but just like u r reading this. They r too.

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
Just because I'm quiet, don't think things r not being done. It is just not my style to go on a media frenzy.

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
The entire family has always been together in the fight for justice & will continue to do so.

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
Thank u so much for being here. Oh, one last thing...

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
Although he's not here, he is a part of us and will be with us on every song.

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
As a group, we have never performed without Michael, so that will be hard for everyone. But I know he would want us to continue.

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
It's been 2 yrs since his passing, we're getting back to music now... Becuz that is our gift from God.

ladeevon Devon Dickerson
by randyjackson8
@randyjackson8 can we talk about you. You do have fans who want to know what have you been up to.

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
Last question....

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
I can't say too much... But please know, it's not over.

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
It was all so overwhelming, we're all still in shock.

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
The will was of great importance, but at that time, giving my brother a proper burial was more important.

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
They didn't allow us to have this time. The will was lost in the shuffle.

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
When u r in such grief, it's hard to process business. And things of this importance need special attention with a clear head.

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
While we were in shock & grief, they did a good job of attacking us from all angles with contracts, the movie, the will,countless legal docs

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
The will is terribly flawed.... Misspellings & discrepancies, etc. The only reason why this will passed through was because....

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
First & foremost... I know this is not the setup that my brother would have wanted.

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
There r so many things wrong with this will. Where do I start????

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
This is a good question.

MJHDC_ MJHDC
by randyjackson8
@randyjackson8 Hundreds have asked about the legality of the will yet no mention ... Yet Taaj's pointless questions are answered ... *SMH*

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
This is being looked into now. We are very concerned about their involvement with our mother's business.

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
My entire family is concerned about Trent & Lowell Henry. There may be selfish ambition.
34 minutes ago

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
Good question. Let me be really clear about this....

TeamMichael777 ?TeamMichael?
by randyjackson8
@randyjackson8 Please Randy tell us about Trent and Lowell Henry, They are very close 2 ur mother! I am very concerned about some "Deals"

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
I understand he's doing a little better after his stroke.... I wish him well.

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
Frank Dileo put the deal together without our knowledge. We had NO idea this was going on & that's why he was sued for it.

dallasjenfitz J-Fitz
by randyjackson8
@randyjackson8 if the family was so concerned about MJs health then why were y'all trying to get him to perform with you at Texas stadium?

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
Yes.

TeamMichael777 ?TeamMichael?
by randyjackson8
@randyjackson8 Do you think (as I do) there is organized supporters of Branca strategically planted in the MJ community???

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
AEG, Sony were very quick to the draw... Just days after his passing. As gruesome as it sounds. It seemed like vultures at a feeding frenzy.

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
I was particularly disheartened at the hastiness of the executors to close deals before I could give my brother a proper burial.

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
Everyone who stands to profit - and let me be clear, it is not his family, contrary to popular belief - is suspect in my eyes.

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
I believe that there is definitely a conspiracy & right now, I don't count anything or anyone out.

MusicMechanik RIGBY
by randyjackson8
@randyjackson8 Do you believe that Branca had something to do with your brother's death like your sister Latoya? I find it hard to believe.

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
When negative things like this surface, it is hard not to have an emotional reaction. But the truth eventually comes out.

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
From what I understand, Aaron Carter has already denied ever making that statement & is considering suing ok magazine.
1 hour ago

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
Daphne Barak has made a name off of fabricating stories about my family.

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
I was suspicious about the Aaron Carter comment once I heard who was interviewing him.
1 hour ago

mjYanaGirl Yana Jackson
by randyjackson8
@randyjackson8 What's your take on the Aaron Carter debacle?

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
I'm going to retweet ur questions and then answer them.

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
Me and my family are so appreciative.

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
Before we start, I want to thank everyone again for all the love & support on the 2nd anniversary of my brother's passing.

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
Please give me 2 mins to set up. Bear with me. I'm not the fastest at typing.

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
Hello everyone. I'm here.
Chaturi96
262 posts
Jul 02, 2011
6:21 PM
Hi Bonnie,
Are you saying that you have already been in contact with LaToya? I just wondered when I read that you're willing to meet her at the house so you could go in together. It would be wonderful to know that she knows of you, and is open to your assistance in all of this.

Chaturi ~


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