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Carmen68
627 posts
Mar 06, 2011
7:27 PM
Hello to everyone! I wanted to share some important information for any members and lurkers who might be interested in seeing and hearing David Icke and Jesse Ventura in person.

On Saturday, March 26, 2011, David Icke will be speaking at the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium at a seminar. The seminar starts at 10:00AM and ends at 8:00PM. There will be breaks for lunch and dinner, and his website has info on hotel accommodations.

http://www.davidickeinlosangeles.com/overview.html

On Monday, April 11, 2011, Jesse Ventura will be speaking in person at the Barnes & Noble bookstore at the Santa Monica Promenade. He is promoting his latest book and will be at the store starting at 7:00PM.

http://store-locator.barnesandnoble.com/author-events/Jesse-Ventura/658218

I am going to try my best to attend both events. The David Icke seminar will be easier to attend since it's on a Saturday. The Jesse Ventura event will be trickier for me since it's on a Monday, and I don't know if I'll make it in time coming from North Hollywood - unless I take the day off from work.

Just thought I'd share this information for anyone who might be interested in participating!

Warmly,
Carmen

Last Edited by on Mar 06, 2011 7:28 PM
Chaturi96
208 posts
Mar 07, 2011
7:38 PM
Hi Carmen,
I attended David's all day seminar last October in the San Francisco area. It is very worthwhile and I highly recommend it. I'm sure it will be even more updated at this point, as events are changing so fast.

For a man who suffers from severe arthritis since early adulthood, his stamina and energy for these all day events is astounding. I am acquainted with a close friend of his, and I can say that David is truly a sweetheart of a man.

Enjoy!

Love,
Chaturi
Carmen68
629 posts
Mar 08, 2011
10:13 AM
Thank you, Chaturi, for your comments! I'm looking forward to it. I haven't purchased my tickets yet for David Icke's seminar, but I am going to try to attend. If I'm able to go to one or both of these events, I'll be sure to share my notes and observations here. David will probably have DVDs for sale covering his previous seminars, for those of us who missed them or wish to share his insights and information with others.

I purchased about 17 DVDs of Aaron Russo's film, "America: Freedom to Fascism" as Christmas gifts for friends and family, and feedback from those who have watched this excellent film is starting to come in. I'll purchase more when I have some extra money so as to share with some people I know who may not be able to afford to buy their own copies. Informative eye-opening DVDs make excellent gifts, in my opinion!

Warmly,
Carmen
Carmen68
630 posts
Mar 08, 2011
10:18 AM
For those interested in "America: Freedom to Fascism" and who might want to sample it before making a possible purchase, I found it online. It was removed previously from YouTube or Google, but I found it here:




I don't know for how long this video link will survive, but I do strongly urge people to watch it and consider the information for themselves. Aaron Russo starts with a simple, basic question. The run-around he gets and the treatment he gets for daring to question is really something to behold.

Hope it's okay to post this here, Bonnie. :)

~Carmen~
Irina
844 posts
Mar 08, 2011
10:59 AM
Found it on Google as well. Thanks for putting the video up Carmen. This reminds me to go finish watching it.
Irina
881 posts
Mar 22, 2011
9:45 AM
I feel these videos fit well here:




Last Edited by on Mar 22, 2011 9:46 AM
sdparanormal
1087 posts
Mar 22, 2011
9:01 PM






Irina
884 posts
Mar 23, 2011
8:18 AM
Thank you for these Bonnie.
I have as yet to watch them.
The thoughts of Michael's Moonwalk and Moonwalker come to mind. Wonder if there was a message there...


Edited to add: Ute and I have been discussing the references to the "Moon" in Michael's work and we strongly feel that these were references to "the matrix".

Last Edited by on Mar 23, 2011 8:50 PM
Chaturi96
226 posts
Mar 24, 2011
8:29 AM
Thx Bonnie. I'll try to watch these tonite. David was on coasttocoastam for 2 hrs last night!
Irina
892 posts
Mar 24, 2011
9:13 AM
I watched these last night. Thank you Bonnie!

The concept of the moon as being a created and placed-in-position object has been something that I have come across before. Considering some of the other things that I've been learning about of late I am not shocked by this notion. It is definitely something to ponder...


Bonnie, Chaturi, or anyone else who may read this question,
I am wondering whether David has ever mentioned specifically who it is that he is channeling? I do feel that David channels quite a bit considering the experiences he describes. Or am I wrong on that one?

Last Edited by on Mar 24, 2011 9:24 AM
sdparanormal
1100 posts
Mar 24, 2011
9:54 AM
Hi Irina,

I agree that he is channeling information. He does not talk about that aspect very much. He has enough ridicule to deal with without adding that to the mix. I do not recall him providing a name or source. He is led to information that backs up the channeled information. I work the same way. I cannot identify the source that places the information in my path, other than to call it guidance.

Hugs,
Bonnie
Irina
894 posts
Mar 24, 2011
10:10 AM
hi Bonnie,

Thanks for answering this one for me Bonnie.
It is all so very, very fascinating.

Lately I am reading the "RA Material" again. There is lot to absorb and so I still have much to complete there; but the ETs that are being quoted throughout the writings are persistently recommending meditation in order for us here to gain access to understanding of the basic principles which guide creation and of all that there is, which they say is love.

They do expand on what is happening within our reality and much of it resonates with what David is speaking of. I am sure he is familiar with these writings as well.

Edited to add:
And yes, the ETs say they must communicate in thought form as they are very careful so as not to infringe on our Free will. So it is what I would call guidance as well.


Hugs,
Irina

Last Edited by on Mar 24, 2011 10:36 AM
Carmen68
661 posts
Mar 24, 2011
8:07 PM
An e-mail was sent to those who are planning to attend David Icke's seminar this Saturday. I am posting it here since I don't consider it something of a personal nature. It will allow people to understand what to expect and how some things are going to be handled. I may take some pictures but will not bring a camcorder with me, as I don't want to make anyone suspicious of my intentions. I won't have the opportunity to meet Mr. Icke or to speak with him personally, but anyone who wishes to ask him a question or make a comment may do so by writing it down on a piece of paper, which will be handed to Mr. Icke by an usher. I am getting very excited and look forward to attending this event. Assuming I am not asked to work on Saturday, I will be there. I'll summarize what I see and hear when I am able to do so.
**********************

TO: David Icke Seminar Participants
FROM: The David Icke in Los Angeles Production Staff

The David Icke event is in a couple of days. We are all very excited. While there are still some tickets available, we expect a packed Auditorium with a large enthusiastic audience. David did a walk through today with the AV team and everything is ready. He indicated he has so much material he might need to go later than 8 pm. Get ready.

Here are some hints to help you through the long day

1) The Will Call window will open at 8:30 (or sooner). The lines will be long but we have a very large staff to facilitate the whole process and everyone will be seated on time.

2) When you get your ticket envelope there will be a ticket and a wristband. First put on your wristband. Give the ticket to the security person at the front door. As you find your way inside, the ushers will direct you to the colored seating area identified on your wristband.

3) When you locate a seat you will notice a thin post-it note on the back of the chair. Remove this thin post-it and affix it to the wristband. This will identify that specific seat as your seat for the day.

4) All the seats in the Auditorium are very good. David’s Powerpoint presentation is projected onto a very large screen so it will be very easy to see. The sound system is awesome and fills the room.

5) There are two meal breaks (lunch and dinner) and we contracted with the “Green Truck” to serve chicken, vegetarian and vegan Box Lunches. $10 meal tickets (cash only) can be purchased from the Table in the Lobby (it will be obvious). Hopefully this prepackaged and preticketed system will move quickly but we expect lines to form during the meal breaks. Please be patient with this.

6) The Civic Auditorium will have a concession stand open with sandwiches and drinks as well. Alternately you can bring food with you. It will be a long day sitting in a chair, so think about how you can stay nourished and hydrated.

7) You might bring a notebook to take notes. You might bring a small camera to take a picture. But NO videotaping allowed. Please cooperate with this per David’s request.

8) David will not be available to meet either at the stage or during breaks. There will be security everywhere to prevent this. Please cooperate. Leave David alone to do his thing. He’s not going to be able to meet with anyone, talk with anyone, be photographed with anyone. Whatever you might have to say, write it down on a piece of paper and hand it to an usher. We will accumulate these notes and pass them on to David.

9) If you need to leave and intend to return, be sure you keep the colored wristband attached as that will be your reentry ticket.


Well that’s it. Have a great time. See you there.

*************************

~Carmen~

Last Edited by on Mar 24, 2011 8:10 PM
Carmen68
664 posts
Mar 24, 2011
9:40 PM
I just had the chance to watch the David Icke videos you posted, Bonnie, and I want to thank you so very much! Enjoyed them tremendously! My approach to learning from him is not so much bound to personally agreeing with and accepting everything he says but rather keeping an open mind and absorbing as much of what he says as I possibly can. I just enjoy listening to him and being exposed to a radically different way of thinking and seeing the world. I've been exposing some of my friends, family members and coworkers to David and his theories, and one of my coworkers (who is definitely a cynic in general) admitted to me that as crazy as some of David's theories and statements may sound, they actually make sense!!! He had actually listened to David Icke on the coast-to-coast radio program a few nights ago, which I was very surprised to hear.

Personally speaking, I think many people are going to open up to new information, new theories and will be more inclined to listen to David Icke and others like him in the coming months and years as a result of increasing anger, frustration and the realization that the old theories and versions of 'reality' cannot be justified or accepted any longer. When people get angry enough and fed up with being lied to and manipulated, or when they reach a point in their lives where some situation they're in can't get much worse, fear may turn to anger, which in turn may become a desire to see and seek the truth.

Thank you again, Bonnie.
sdparanormal
1114 posts
Mar 25, 2011
4:42 PM
Carmen68
665 posts
Mar 27, 2011
8:13 PM
Hello to fellow board members and lurking readers. I didn’t have the energy to write a summary of David Icke’s seminar at the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium last night when I came home at 10:00PM, so I’m writing about the experience today. It was a very exciting day for me, and many others who attended, I’m sure, and a tremendous amount of information was covered

I was on the freeway by 8:05 AM and as a result of completely smooth non-stop traffic, I managed to reach the auditorium and park my car by 8:35AM. For those unfamiliar with the Burbank and Los Angeles areas, and the freeway traffic normally involved in covering those distances, getting from Burbank to Santa Monica in half an hour or so is unheard of except on a holiday such as Christmas. The traffic was excellent at that hour of the morning. By the time I reached the Civic Auditorium, lines were already forming to pick up tickets as well as to park, but I expected that, so it was not a surprise.

Once we received our tickets, we had to go through a manual security check point. Our bags, purses, etc., were manually inspected, after which we were allowed to wait inside in another line. By about 9:10 AM, we were all allowed inside the auditorium. The program itself actually began before 10:00 AM and involved a video presentation introducing the audience to David Icke via old film and video footage, much of which people reasonably familiar with him will already have seen on YouTube.

David started his presentation by discussing spirituality and emphasizing his personal belief that “we are consciousness having an experience” or “consciousness experiencing reality” rather than a physical being experiencing consciousness. He discussed frequencies and vibrations and explained how there are many other frequencies out there, but we are tuned in to one frequency, and as a result, we experience reality a certain way. He said that every person, planet, object, etc., vibrates at a certain frequency, and that entities also vibrate a certain frequency. He mentioned at some point during the seminar that psychics are able to ‘tune into’ other frequencies and therefor are able to perceive (as in hear, sense, see) other beings, entities, etc.

The next part of the presentation, which came after lunch break, involved the Illuminati and New World Order. David did not go into all the Illuminati blood lines but focused on one in particular, and cited many, many examples of that particular blood line’s influence on world politics, wars and financial affairs: The Rothschilds. He also openly stated that he was going to go into some controversial areas, and he did. He discussed Zionism and made the KEY DISTINCTION that many others do NOT make; he constantly used the term “Rothschild Zionism” and explained how the Rothschilds, through their influence in politics and world affairs, will destroy the Jews in order to reach their own goals. He spoke openly and adamantly against what Israel is doing to the Palestinians and pointed out how and why no one dares to speak against Israel, but if other countries do what Israel has done and continues to do to Palestine and Palestinians, it would not be tolerated. The Jewish Star of David is actually a Rothschild symbol. The Rothschild’s exert a tremendous amount of influence on American foreign policy. This information as presented here comes from David Icke himself. I am not making this up. I am also not taking a stand here or stating what I do and do not stand for or believe in. My purpose in presenting this information is to share what I heard coming from David Icke himself. He also openly stated that he doesn’t “give a sh*t” what other people think of him or about him, and he isn’t going to allow the label ‘anti-semitism’ to stick to him or intimidate him. He also showed photographic evidence that many Jews in America as well as in Isreal do NOT support the war against Palestine and what Isreal is doing to the Palestinians. He called it genocide and backed up his position with the definition of the word as described in Webster’s Dictionary, I believe.

The Rothschild’s give tremendous amounts of money and political support for which ever president is in office, so naturally, the Rothschild’s agenda WILL be met and carried out.

He does not describe the Illuminati as the Satanic blood lines specifically but rather as the end result of interbreeding between reptilian aliens who came here long ago and the human population. He believes that the blood lines are the result of interbreeding and that as a result of the DNA formed, the blood lines lack a human conscience or EMPATHY. Without empathy, they are capable of committing the atrocities they engage in throughout the world and on every level. He cites references such as ancient artwork depicted in caves or on rock walls or in the Egyptian tombs. He also cites folk lore and shaman stories that have been carried down for thousands of years by men such as Credo Mutwa.

Another sensitive area that David Icke covered was all the wars taking place around the world, and which people were backing and supporting them (again connecting all the dots to the Rothschilds by citing specific examples of people in key positions of power who are somehow related to them or who have been put in place by them), and that the American and British governments don’t care about soldiers and their lives; politicians will NEVER send themselves or their own children to war, but OTHER people’s sons and daughters are expendable. At one point, a man in the audience yelled out that he is a soldier who proudly serves his country and resents what David is saying, and I truly felt sorrow and hurt for that soldier. I understood David’s position, but I also understood the soldier’s position. The incident was most unfortunate, but David continued on, raising his voice and proceeding to show maimed soldiers on the stage screen, and examples of how those men and women were lied to by the American government, and that the only way wars will stop is when the men and women who are called upon to serve refuse to do so. Yes, there were many applause after this segment. I applauded because I am fed up with wars, fighting and killing, and seeing with my own eyes that it has achieved NOTHING and merely continues from one target point to another.

David went on to explain how there is a plan to gradually take control of certain countries, and he showed us a map of Africa and the middle east. He explained how the people who are behind this cannot achieve their goals outright and openly, so this must be done gradually and in such a way that no one sees, suspects or understands what is really going on. He also said that he saw documents from many years ago, possibly as far back as the 1960s, in which ALL OF THIS IS EXPLAINED AND REVEALED. Everything is coming to pass just as it was planned many years ago.

He touched upon the topic of children and what has been happening to them, and why. At this point, I immediately thought of Michael Jackson, as so many of us believe that he may have been a child victim of some form(s) of abuse, and I listened very, very intently. David explained that children are being abducted and, without going into detail, that horrible things are being done to them because the entities, as he calls them, require fear, pain, terror and negative energy to feed off of, as well as the Satanic sacrifices of human blood. The goal of these entities, who tap into or control or guide the Illuminati blood lines, is to feed off of negative energy and to keep our vibrations as low as possible. When we raise our vibrations, they cannot feed off of us or use that energy. He likened them to blood sucking vampires or energy vampires. Children make the best victims because of their ways of handling terror and pain. These entities thrive on human suffering, apparently. Hence, we have the atrocities we have going on all around the world. That is his personal take on things and how he sees things.

Brief note about these entities, which exist on a different frequency vibration and therefor cannot be seen by us: David said that he has spoken to some psychics who describe these entities as dark shadowy figures that they can 'see' or sense usually standing directly behind the Illuminati person or public figure. I thought that was rather interesting.

He ended his seminar on a personal responsibility and self empowering note. He discussed the importance of each person accepting responsibility for the choices he/she has made, and to figure out why each person has made those choices. He explained that global consciousness is growing, and it will continue to grow whether some people like it or not. He explained that the Illuminati are doing everything they can to throw everything they can at us, including the kitchen sink, figuratively speaking, because they are desperate and trying desperately to hold on to their power and power system. They have known that this time is coming, and because of their blood lines, they have been given the ability to foresee the future. David spoke with great conviction and confidence that humans will rise and get off their knees, and will rediscover their greatness, their own power, their infinite creativity, and will “sleep no more.”

I’m going to end this summary now. I hope it gives you an idea of what David believes and will serve as a good introduction to some of his books, should any of you choose to explore on your own. I did not agree with everything David stated, but that’s okay. My purpose in attending this seminar was not to take in everything as gospel but rather to absorb as much information as I could and decide for myself what I think, what I believe, what feels right and/ or rings true for me, and I also reserve the right to not have an opinion on an issue or topic at this time. In some cases, I need to do more reading and research before I take a stand or reach a conclusion. I'm sure David would say, "Think for yourselves!"

Speaking of research and reaching conclusions, David mentioned that many scientists are not going to speak the truth about some of the things they know are happening because they need their jobs and the sciences require government funding. Also, the sciences are not all one happy united family but rather are competing against each other for research funding, etc. He paid his respects publicly to the late Carl Sagan, Albert Einstein and Michiu Kaku.

Warmly,
Your faithful attendee and correspondent,
Carmen

Edited once more to correct the spelling of the Illuminati family name of "Rothschild."

Last Edited by on Mar 28, 2011 10:24 AM
Carmen68
666 posts
Mar 27, 2011
9:06 PM
Forgot to add that David had so much to say that he went beyond the 8:00 PM deadline and didn't finish until about 9:10 PM.

Also, for anyone interested, I did make a mental note of the demographic that was in attendance. Most of the people were caucasian, at least 35-38 years old, and I would say on average the minimum age was about 40. I saw a man who appeared to be Native American Indian, and a few Asians, but not many. I saw NO hispanics. I saw a few African-Americans. During the lunch break, as I came back to the auditorium after going for a brisk walk, I noticed some young people relaxing on the lawn outside the auditorium. They appeared to be in their early to mid twenties. I had a lady sitting on my right side whom I chatted with periodically during breaks, as I did the gentleman who sat on my left, and she had attended one of David's seminars in Arizona. She actually drove out to Arizona from Los Angeles for that seminar. I asked her if the demographic for that seminar was similar to this one. She said yes, it was. I found myself very curious to know who buys and reads David's books, attends his seminars and watches his YouTube videos. I was not the only person looking all around the theater to see who was in attendance.

There were definitely some men and women who looked as though they were flower children or hippies back in the 1960s, as well as corporate business type women (in appearance in terms of dress, make up, hair styles) and ladies in their 50s and 60s. It was interesting to see the physical types of people who were there, from age to how they dressed and wore their hair, to how women wore make up (if any make up), clothing styles and hair styles on men, etc.

Just thought I'd mention this, as I'm sure any of you would have wanted to take a good long look around to see who else is here at this event and what types of people find David Icke interesting and worth listening to. This is just an observation on my part and nothing more. :)

~Carmen~

Edited to add: I just remembered something else that David spoke at length about and considers very important. He mentioned his belief that the moon is hollow, and he cited some sources including certain books and certain individuals who share this belief. He also stated that he and some others believe that the moon was created and put in place by aliens or some other force as opposed to the traditional theories science has given us. Scientific experiments have been done using the moon and lasers, and the moon has 'rung' like a gong for a period of time, as though it's hollow or has some kind of hydraulics inside. David also believes that the moon is exerting some kind of force that is interfering with the ability of humans to decipher or decode other vibrations or frequencies in their environment. In other words, the size and proximity of the moon, and its placement, cannot be a mere coincidence, and the influence on our behavior, our brains, our bodies also cannot be a mere coincidence, according to David. He believes the moon has a negative influence on us and is being used to control us in some way or to interfere with our ability to receive or 'tune in' to other frequencies. That's the general idea, if I remember correctly.

Last Edited by on Mar 27, 2011 9:22 PM
Carmen68
667 posts
Mar 28, 2011
7:07 AM
David Icke's presentation started with a video that used this song, which I am posting a video presentation of here. This video is NOT the one used in David's introductory presentation, but it shares the same theme. David started his seminar with the focus on spirituality, and I do believe he was attempting to raise the audience's vibrations using this music and some illustrations made by a friend of his. The music is very nice.

Carmen68
668 posts
Mar 28, 2011
7:47 AM
Sorry for feeding this information to you in stages, but that's how it's all coming back to me.

David's introduction came in the form of a song by Elton John, which was then followed by the song in the video above. Listen to the lyrics in Elton John's song, "I'm Still Standing," and imagine the book cover of "The Lion Sleeps No More" on a screen on the stage. That's what we were looking at and listening to before David's presentation began.

It is a song of defiance, and David is defiant and he is STILL STANDING.

Irina
899 posts
Mar 28, 2011
8:13 AM
I am just trying to catch up on all of the updates. Thank you Carmen.
Irina
900 posts
Mar 28, 2011
10:32 AM
I have read David's link and am not wholly convinced by every single example he cites. However he has his rationale.

And as for myself I am not inclined toward the political scene as such. It is a massive energy drain watching all of the maneuvering.

But being of a peaceful nature personally and not wanting to see others suffer, and having gained a broader understanding of the interconnectedness between all that is on this planet Earth of ours (thank you Michael and Bonnie! and David! for that matter), it has begun to dawn on me that I must pay closer attention to what is going on around me on a much broader scale.

Need to research and analyze what is presented within this link by David more from my newly aware perspective. I think everyone should do the same.

edited to add:
It is my first hand knowledge that the Jews and the Palestinians would get along just fine if they were not pitted against each other. Now to the best of my understanding (and as cited by David of course) there are much bigger players moving the chess around on both ends of the Muslim and Jewish spectrum. I just do not subscribe to it being just one faction (this is where I differ with David). But again still more research needs to be done.
Generally these peoples have co-existed peacefully ( worked together and in some cases intermarried, both during current times and going back into antiquity as these peoples, it is thought, originate from the same root race) without the world empires and the elite trying to create strife between them.

I see the Palestinian/ Israeli conflict as more of a narrowing of the lense, which keeps us from noticing the bigger issues and controllers behind them; but not necessarily that Israel as an entity has no right to coexist with the others in that region and is bad; or that they will never get along with the Palestinians. They generally would all live in peace given the chance.

Last Edited by on Mar 28, 2011 10:58 AM
Chaturi96
230 posts
Mar 28, 2011
10:41 AM
Great job, Carmen! Thank you. I'm glad you could take such detailed & thorough notes. I simply was unable to do that, and still keep up with the volume and pace of the info he covers, when I went last October. I just gave up on attempting to take notes.

I see they've intensified the security measures for these events since I attended. No surprise.

Much love,
Chaturi
Carmen68
671 posts
Mar 28, 2011
12:04 PM
Irina, I think I essentially agree with your observations that both sides would and could co-exist if not interfered with and given the chance. There is a driving force behind many of the world's conflicts.

Chaturi, I couldn't take notes as we all sat so close to each other that writing would have been impossible. The notes are all mental (mentally taken and mentally recorded as best I could) and were not written down at the time. All of this is from memory. I couldn't do this any other way. David's website will verify much of this information, as will his books, since this information all comes from him.

Much love,
Carmen
Carmen68
673 posts
Mar 28, 2011
9:20 PM
Just wanted to thank you, Bonnie, for the David Icke video interview with the Czech interviewer. David touched upon those subjects in his seminar, and watching this video interview reminded me of something he said last Saturday: He believes the protests taking place in Egypt and Libya are being encouraged and orchestrated by the Illuminati, while using the genuine emotions and desires for regime change on the part of civilians and citizens. If I follow David's line of reasoning here, The Powers That Be wanted Mubarak out, and by encouraging the citizens to fight and push him out (at least it appeared that way on the surface), THEY get their man in, and the rest of the world merely believes (as I did) that it was a people's revolution or revolt that ousted Mubarak.

I wanted to mention that while security was at least present, I found it rather lax in the sense that my digital camera could have been a bomb or an explosive, and the way in which I had it concealed in my double layer satchel, it would have made its way inside without any trouble at all. I was disappointed in that. David may not fear his own demise, but in my personal opinion, it is NOT his mental or vibrational state that is protecting him, but rather a much Higher Power at work. That Higher Power will protect him, in my opinion, at least until David's work and task(s) are completed.

I know David would strongly disagree with me here, but as far as I'm concerned, he is one of God's instruments right now and is being used - and protected - accordingly. David's higher vibrations are not protecting him from harm in my opinion, although I do agree that one's subconscious mind or mind set can create negative situations or create a self-fulfilling prophecy. I happen to believe a much Higher Power is at work and is helping David.

As the 'cornered rat' gets increasingly desperate, it might not be a bad idea for security measures to get beefed up a bit more.

Love,
Carmen

Last Edited by on Mar 28, 2011 9:26 PM
sdparanormal
1792 posts
Jan 08, 2012
6:19 PM

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