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Roxy
93 posts
Jul 19, 2010
6:42 PM
Bonnie,

I am having such a hard time wrapping my head around all of this, the Cabal, the Illuminati, Obama and all U.S. Presidents, and now 9/11. I never believed in the 9/11 conspiracy theories but this does make me wonder.

I am questioning everything and pretty confused. We are told by the Connection, Ms. Cannon, and many other Spiritualists to think positive because we are what we think. We can change our lives with our thoughts and we do control our destiny. We need to stay in the light and be happy and at peace. If we do all of these things we will raise our vibration and lead happier lives and maybe we will be a part of the New Earth that Ms Cannon mentioned. I try to not watch the media and news because it is so negative and brings me down. But I have to say watching all of the videos of David Icke and all the Illuminati videos is also a real downer. It all seems like a real dichotomy.

How do you deal with all of this and jump out of bed and feel positive in the AM????

Jane

Last Edited by on Jul 19, 2010 8:02 PM
MMM
12 posts
Jul 19, 2010
11:38 PM
Sadly, none of this is new to me. I am accustomed to much of what the government has done and is doing. Since 1997, I have been in touch with groups on the internet involved in the machinations of the government and learned much from reading and researching. At first I felt the same way Jane does at present. Now I keep my eyes and ears open and research with an open mind. Living in Colorado is an experience that can go either way. Dark or Light. Black or White. It sounds bipolar, doesn't it? This Earth is bipolar with its north and south pole polar regions.

A couple of things haven't been mentioned. The SKULL AND BONES SOCIETY / BOHEMIAN GROVE. Most presidents and ex-presidents belong to these negative cults. A search on these terms will bring up some strange activities by many of our politicians and major corporate executives.

Mind control is also known as MKULTRA. The military is used to apply many experiments, etc. on the population including those chemtrails that are seen in our skies. When I was a child, the skies were very different. So blue and clear. A jet left a contrail that disappeared within seconds, maybe a minute or so. Now whatever is in those l-o-n-g plumes of 'whatever' are spreading out across our skies and delivering who knows what upon us.

I have my suspicions concerning September 11, 2001. I have done much research on that day. Firefighters and police officers (and families) are being held from speaking and are quite angry. So are the architects that constructed those buildings to withstand a possible jet crash. This was definitely kept in mind when those buildings were built. (???) Also, doesn't anyone find it odd that any other terrorist action or assassination 'day' is not in numbers? We don't say JFK was assassinated (by government btw) on 11/22. Or John Lennon was murdered on 12/8 and so on. However, the constant drumming of the term 9/11 brings a sense of EMERGENCY to the minds of the people as in 911 emergency calls. In other words, fear. No coincidence.

Check out a search on DIA Colorado. You will find very intriguing information about that airport. I have walked the halls prior to September 11, '01 and witnessed the macabre paintings with disgust. DIA is reported to have underground tunnels. To what purpose, I don't know.

Question it. Be knowledgable. There is absolutley nothing to fear when you know you are truly a Spirit energy having a human experience. We tend to think of ourselves in the material.

Here is a quote from Michael Jackson I find to be highly comforting and compassionate:

"In a world filled with hate, we must still dare to hope. In a world filled with anger, we must still dare to comfort. In a world filled with despair, we must still dare to dream. And in a world filled with distrust, we must still dare to believe." ~Michael Jackson~
sdparanormal
530 posts
Jul 20, 2010
9:04 AM
I am a seeker of truth. Sometimes the truth is not pretty. I consider myself a "light warrior." MMM is quite right, it is bipolar or some call it duality. Dark and Light exists, but dark cannot exist in the light.

Personally I try to stay aware and take whatever positive action I can. Just being aware of what surrounds us all can have a positive affect. The dark can only exist in secret; shed the light of truth and the world becomes a more positive place.

It is getting harder for people to ignore this topic. 50% of the US is either unemployed, had their wages cut or their hours cut. All the while the media tells you everything is fine. When what is on your television does not match your life experience, you have to wake up and start looking for the straight story.

It is interesting that this article comes from mainstream media. The powers that be must not care if we know about this. They always tell you a head of time what is going to happen. Just as an example if you take a look at the film "Knowing" you will find the latest Gulf spill played out in the movie in 2009.


If you do know about the Illuminati card game that came out in 1995 you will find the cards show all recent events including the oil spill, 911 and many more.

Illuminati Cards

Last Edited by on Jul 20, 2010 9:06 AM
Roxy
94 posts
Jul 20, 2010
11:58 AM
Thank you MMM and Bonnie for your response. Understand truth = light in our bipolar world! I will write Michael's quote and carry it with me so I read it and remember.

Jane
Roxy
97 posts
Jul 22, 2010
3:29 AM
Didn't know where to post this, just want to vent!

MMM, I would like to send Michael's quote to Shirley Sherrod. It is a shame how far some go to propagate their political and social agenda! "Fair and balanced" reporting - I don't think so!

Happy that her truth has finally come to the light!

Last Edited by on Jul 22, 2010 4:45 AM
HTW
41 posts
Jul 22, 2010
6:42 AM
Hi,

concerning the information about the oil spill on you tube posted from Bonnie here, I just want to add one thought.
I was doing my research today about freemasonry and illuminati.
I was guided to sites where suddenly it became clear to me that - also very uncomfortable and evil chapter of history - Hitler was an illuminati too.
Pay attention WHEN the oil spill began AND look WHEN is Hitler´s birthday.

Hitler was born 20 th of APRIL !!!

So there is a conspiracy!! and it is going for - how I feel - for centuries, if not thousands of years now becoming stronger.
But we who want to shed light on it become stronger too.
Let us go on with it and Come Together.
MMM is right, we need not fear(see above post) , just be very smart how to bring it out and then raise the energy of Light and Truth!

What Hitler did I need not explain I think. In the meanwhile I am convinced that he did not act alone, there were also other countries involved. See all the nations involved in both World wars and see the parallels to Saddam Hussein or Osama bin Laden or now to Iran.... .
When those members tend to get too strong and want to go alone or when some of their members try to speak out or even do it they mostly pay with their life (see what happened to nearly all of them so far).

Michael was not nuts speaking of conspiracy. It was not only conspiracy against artists in this business. I understand now he spoke of THIS GLOBAL conspiracy. But he had to be careful how he brought the message out (remember the channeling).

Pls, watch SCREAM, where he and Janet sing about the ´game they are playing steadily changing the rules´ - it is about to keep people in fear, lie and confusion.
And Michael did not only tell it for himself but for the world to wake up.... . This is really an evil game... .
But we found out and it will stpo it. I am sure!


God bless you all
and
it IS ALL for LOVE!!

Ute
HTW
42 posts
Jul 22, 2010
10:56 AM
Hi again,

want to put the letters in the right order: It is of course STOP not stpo
(see above).
This stpo sounds for me like an abbreviation of an evil secret group in Nazi Germany (Gestapo). Therefore I h a d to put the letters in the correct order.

In the news posted above I saw that man reading certain numbers on a piece of paper.
Seeing certain numbers has been mentioned here already.
Like 11:11 or 22:22 and several other combinations.
I would like to add that I met the following numbers in this order I write them down now since the past week: 11: 11: 11, 44, 22, 333, 444, 555.
Now i see this guy in the film reading 666 and then 981.
A friend of mine has got a book about Angels and numbers ( Doreen Virtue). We know the use of 666, but in this book it is described too that this number tells us to stand up for our path and find out our life purpose.
All symbols can be used for several purpose. So, when this number is turned around it becomes 999, which is the number of the Lightworker.
I will find out the meaning of 981 and will watch again to see which numbers are written around the mentioned numbers.

In the post above I mentioned the responsibility/ conspiracy during both World wars ( others included of course and revolutions etc. ..too.).
In his Haarlem Speech 2002 ( if I´m right) at Al Sharpton´s Michael mentioned that history too was manipulated, that people do not get the whole or even false information and that we need to change it.
This is not only about music and its history - he speaks out for world history.
Also religion: I think that in the meanwhile it is known everywhere that Vatican holds back important information from the people.
WHY all of this is done is clear, needs not any more to be mentioned here.
All they suggest us, what might happen, they do themselves.
But I remain convinced that light will be shed more and more on all the truth.
It is up to us!
And I am so grateful to having met all of you wonderful and awake people.
Thank you again, Bonnie, for this wonderful message board.

Ute
Irina
213 posts
Jul 22, 2010
1:17 PM
Hi Ute, Everyone,

I had to respond in kind and post this video here:



Does everyone see what Michael was trying to spell out in a NOT-SO-SUBTLE fashion? Do you see the references to Fascism and Communism? Please note all of the Occult symbolism. Note the Army Marching reminiscent of the Nazi/ Communist Era Parades,the Rune Symbols on the Flags and Uniform sleeves, the Eagle overseeing the ongoing march of the armies, the Pentagram (both being built and welded Constructivist-style and on Michael's uniform sleeve together with the Eagle), the all- seeing Eye of Horus in several scenes watching over the crowds (Illuminati presence), the 777 (this a POSSIBLE nod to the Satanists, do your reseach into Aleister Crowley, he has a publication called "Liber 777"- just one possible interpretation; THERE ARE OTHER POSITIVE ASSOCIATIONS WITH THIS NUMBER AS WELL. YOU CAN DECIDE FOR YOURSELF BASED ON THE IMAGERY AND YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF MICHAEL AND HIS SITUATION), note the dominant RED and BLACK colors (these symbolize the presence of Evil (you may want to brush up on Jordan Maxwell's research), think of how many times Michael wore this color combination, think of 02 color scheme on stage); note the Fisted hand signal at 1:26 in the video (do recall the 02 press conference and many photos depicting Michael showing this signal),note the location shown at about 2:40 in the video, where the about to be revealed Statue of Michael is shown, and at about 2:48 in the video (the location uncannily resembles the Vatican including the close-up shots in between, along with another nod to same at 3:00 in the video), finally note the Eight-Pointed Star (relating to the Freemasons; you may have caught a glimpse of Michael wearing this symbol in the form of a belt buckle in some photos taken of him) at the foot of the fully revealed statue of Michael (you can see all 8 corners lit at 3:28 in the video).

This was just my initial instinctive overview. There is more to flesh out here with detailed references. Will post more.

Ute,
This was brewing in the back of my mind for months and I had to take the opportunity to post it.
If you have anything to add please do so.

Last Edited by on Jul 26, 2010 12:12 PM
HTW
43 posts
Jul 22, 2010
4:01 PM
Hi Irina,

I watched the vid you posted.
I had watched it before at home, but now watched it still much more attentively. Thank you!
I had shivers, but positive ones, running down from my head to my toes. I payed more attention to what you pointed out to and saw signs in scenes I will add all soon.
I feel Michael brings out here a great message. Maybe he wants to bring it out now more and more clearly, because the postings on the board come more and more closely to the truth.
I will fix what I see in this part, then post it.
One thing I would like to add now.
Remember how he was critisised because of this statue? Media called him nuts, megalomaniac etc. ... . But he had to state his message more and more clearly and stronger. Therefore the bigger the means... .
And in the song "History" on his HIStory album there is the line: "....... He dares to be recognised."........ .

Ute
Irina
214 posts
Jul 22, 2010
6:25 PM
hi Ute,
I felt that since you already brought up the subject of Hitler (as it relates to Esoteric Fascism) it kind of made sense to connect it to Michael's message.I think with this we kind of "cut to the chase" of a good portion of what Michael was trying to draw attention to and communicate to the public.
Yes. I absolutely recall the critism he received. You may also want to look up the 1995 Diane Sawyer interview of him together with Lisa Marie posted here in the Vindication Videos thread. Ms. Sawyer Interestingly chose the word "furor" to describe the reaction this particular video caused in the MSM.
Absolutely please go ahead and add your observations . This I feel had a sense of urgency as you have already pointed out that all on this board has been speeding up closer to the truth.

All the Best,
Irina

Last Edited by on Jul 22, 2010 6:48 PM
Roxy
100 posts
Jul 23, 2010
2:46 PM
Thank you Irina and Ute
Irina
219 posts
Jul 23, 2010
5:33 PM
Jane,
You are welcome.

Bonnie,
I am wondering whether it would it be better if I remove the above video topic. Perhaps it is too much too soon. Please let me know.

Irina
HTW
48 posts
Jul 23, 2010
6:24 PM
Hi Irina,

pls, read my mails. Have you not yet received any of them?
I answered you.
I write here because my mails do not seem to have reached you.

Hi Jane
yo´re welcome.

All the best for all of you
Ute.
Lynne
8 posts
Jul 23, 2010
6:41 PM
Also note the Sun being shown behind.
Irina
220 posts
Jul 23, 2010
10:46 PM
Hi Ute,

I checked and yes, I received your emails.
Not to worry. I will answer them shortly. :)

Hi Lynne,
Thank you!
Yes, you are absolutely correct. I forgot to mention the Rising Sun shown at the start of the video. This is a reference to the ushering in of the NWO commonly depicted as The Golden Dawn symbol.

Best Regards,
Irina
Irina
221 posts
Jul 24, 2010
12:13 AM
Stopped in once more because I have to share a small message of encouragement I received today. Here goes.
My daughter forgot to open her fortune cookie so I decided I'll do it instead. In it was the tiny note which read: IT'S BETTER TO DO SOMETHING IMPERFECTLY THAN DO NOTHING PERFECTLY.
A little Chinese Fortune Cookie Wisdom for all. :)
Chaturi96
52 posts
Jul 24, 2010
9:17 AM
Hi all,
You may have heard this already, but just in case...The fire alarms on the oil rig had been mysteriously disabled before the explosion. Their explanation..They didn't want to wake people up along the gulf if it should go off in the middle of the night. Hmmmmm ~

Just wanted to share. Now I'm off to work!

Chaturi
HTW
49 posts
Jul 24, 2010
9:19 AM
I agree.

It will help and remind us all being human though aiming to go beyond all boundaries.
Step by step keep on aiming "to be the best that we can be" for the according moments being.

"The goal is the path." (hpoe translation is correct)

All have a good time.

Ute
Irina
305 posts
Aug 20, 2010
10:00 AM
The discussion in the first part of this video relates to my post above discussing the message in Michael's HIStory DVD Entrance Video.

In the latter part of this video there is discussion of the symbolism Michael employed in his work. Specifically the BLACK AND WHITE video. There is ADDITIONAL SYMBOLISM within this video.

You can view some of those added comments in the more in-depth presentation of MICHAEL'S MESSAGE FOR WORLD PEACE as well as some of the SYMBOLISM posted in the MICHAEL JACKSON'S LEGACY thread on the message board:

Last Edited by on Aug 20, 2010 10:36 AM
Roxy
138 posts
Aug 21, 2010
5:16 AM
Irina thank you for this post. It really helped me see what you and Ute have been talking about with us. Michael was a genius and the subliminal messages are throughout.

Fascinating!!!!

With love, Jane
Chaturi96
120 posts
Sep 22, 2010
4:55 PM
Dear everyone,

I hope this is the most relevant thread for this. For anyone interested, Katherine Albrecht is a fairly frequent guest on the Coast To Coast a.m. radio show with host, George Noori. She was just on again this past Monday night. She is a privacy advocate/activist. among other things, is highly educated, and gives up to the minute details on all the ways (I had no idea)our privacy is now and will be violated, including, but not limited to micro-chipping. She also gives tips on how to protect ourselves from this as best we can. Also on her site, check out all the shocking ways in which the most 'well known' search engine violates our privacy, and suggests one to use that has been well researched and is safe. I liked that she is knowledeable and informative about what's happening, and speaks realistically, without being a fear monger!

Here are the websites:

http://www.katherinealbrecht.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=13&Itemid=66

www.coasttocoastam.com

Regards to all ~

Chaturi
MlovesYou
51 posts
Oct 13, 2010
12:40 PM
...also a documentary worth watching called "invisible empire"



as well as this one regarding food control: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6262083407501596844#

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