synchronicity. Interesting that you Bonnie brought to our attention Michael´s Civil Lawsuits update again. Thank you. Since I read that Kenny Ortega also witnessed in this hearing I recalled Katherine Jackson´s filed lawsuit against AEG, Ortega & many others. I wanted to bring that to our attention again. Here it is.
Kenny Ortega's attorney's timing is interesting. This case was filed by Katherine Jackson's attorney back last September. Kenny's attorney waits until now to try to get Kenny's name removed? Kenny just testified in the preliminary hearing vs Conrad Murray.
I think most people would assume what Katherine and her attorney did, that Kenny was under contract with AEG.
Supposedly there were no other players at that time. After Michael's death, the estate sold the rights to Sony, but that is not the time frame being examined in Katherine's case. It is highly unlikely that Kenny would be working with no contract. Who was the contract with???
Once again I could rant about lack of investigative reporting, but this is just the first question to ask. Kenny was not ask about this in court this week either.
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I agree with you Bonnie on all points. I think we all feel here the same. And a lot of questions will be surfacing to be asked. This whole procedure has just started. I also cannot imagine that Kenny Ortega had worked without a contract. I have asked myself again and again which role he had played in that foul game?? And I have not found a clear answer yet though I have my thoughts about it. I saw several photographs of him with Randy Phillips or them passing by and only very briefly answering the journalists´ questions that way that one got the feeling that they want to get out of the focus. I have not seen them together in public for some months, have you? I can only speak for myself but there is something weird about this man.
I am convinced that in this case (Ortega´s) investigative material will not be published or is even destroyed though I cannot prove it.
Somewhere on the board there was a link posted of an oprah interview with Ortega. I tried to find it on youtube and tonight I found one but I am not sure if it is the same. I have not come yet around to watch both completely. During this interview they used symbolism words very often like e.g. "fireflies", ...illuminate themselves ....." and listen then please how it is connected with Michael´s name.
I will post them here. Some things may be getting clearer. Also Ortega´s vita is briefly mentioned. Disney is the illuminati branch for children.
One thing I would like to add here is that in the movie " TII " , Ortega says to Michael: ".....the church of Rock n´Roll..." - as far as I recall after Billie Jean. I did not understand what that should mean until Irina sent me a link where this is explained - I´ll try to find and post it. The church of Rock n´Roll stands for the church of satan. So I am convinced that he somehow is involved in this "circle " and was also there to remind Michael with whom he is dealing with here and who has the control. Again though I have no proof. "....the web of conspiracy....!!" And it is really hurting seeing Michael working so hard for these concerts although they had already made up their plan :(( .
Thanks Ute
Edited to add: I just finished watching the complete interview. Yes, this is the interview I was searching for. Interesting that I found it not earlier than just now... .I have little to add as we know oprah´s kind of conducting interviews and herself , we had already discussed this enough on the board. Ortega´s behaviour seems odd to me. If you listen to it carefully - the interview says all - at least to me. Exploiting Michael here again for their purpose : (( . Michael deserves to have cut off and clarified all these entanglements and lies!!
Last Edited by on Jan 08, 2011 2:33 AM
I am so sorry to hear you are hurting re-watching this interview. It is really hard for all of us to re-live all of this. I have said a prayer of peace for you and everyone on this board.
Dear Bonnie,
I also pray for you Bonnie to have a peace and the white light of goodness surrounding you through your difficult undertaking. You are our blessing, and we love you.
Thank you for all of your recent posts, videos (as difficult as it is to watch them), and your explanations. I remember going to see TII 5 times, and always remember thinking what a great guy K.O. 'seemed' to be. Sadly, I notice that through all we've learned since MJ's passing, I've become way more cautious and/or suspicous in general, than ever before.
I'd also like to check out the link Irina sent you re the 'church of Rock n'Roll when you find it.
Chaturi, It was my opinion that the reference was to the occult presence in popular music. Here is a good link to explore: http://www.illuminati-news.com/art-and-mc/index2.htm Again this is one man's research although quite extensive and informative. And this is one I recall off the top but there were some more. I will try to find additional links from a long time ago if I can.
I saw this interview too a while ago. I agree with your observations Ute. And I feel there are other layers to this conversation. One interesting aspect is that Kenny also makes references to Michael channeling his music. This is another confirmation of that.
Last Edited by on Jan 09, 2011 7:21 AM
thank you for posting this link. It is interesting. It is not the link you sent me then- this was one where David Bowie spoke about this matter. Do you recall? I also noticed him mention Michael channeling. I agree, there are certainly other layers to it.
With Love Ute
Last Edited by on Jan 09, 2011 8:35 AM
Hi Ute, Yes, I sent you another link at the time and I still have to locate that email along with it. I will post it as soon as I find it.
Chaturi, Wes Penre uses Michael as one of the examples in his articles.
I want to remind everyone to keep in mind Michael's channeled messages addressing the symbolism and the occult presence in the Music Industry. The more I listen to much of Michael's music and the more I watch his videos I see that he strongly tried to expose this issue. Also do keep in mind what he expressed in the channeled messages about himself and his feelings about the environment he lived in.
