I feel really sick now reading the news...though its not a surprise, of course. But this is SO WRONG! Nobody should buy this from the people who are responsible for his death! Michael I am so sorry ...
---------- "...be alive, be free, feel consciousness, subsciousness, being GOD..." MJ
Here's what Taryll wrote last night On Monday 8th November 2010, @Taryll said: If you question the validity of a professional photo you can ask the photographer for more pictures from that photo shoot. If it is authentic the photographer will turn over different shots. Some with different poses, some even with eyes closed. I questioned the validity of the vocal's on "breaking news" and several other songs of theirs that I've heard and they told me no other takes or tracks exist.
They claim my uncle was so happy with the performance he instructed them to delete all the other files. I had the honor to learn and watch my uncle record my entire life and that is NOT how he worked. No outtakes, no other tracks, no backups, no proof. roughly 10 songs they turned in… same story for all of them. I asked for the computer it was created on... they said it broke. I asked for the original hard drive... they said it was destroyed. One dubious excuse after another. --- so obviosly there are not demos, no other tracks... *alarm bells went off*
The Official Michael Jackson website (owned by Sony) has posted the song Breaking News. Here is the tease.
Harvey Levin from TMZ weighs in:
Someone has played me the song "Breaking News." I'm not a music expert, but I am a Michael Jackson music fan ... and it's definitely Michael Jackson. The song -- which is awesome -- is a pretty harsh look through Michael's eyes at the media. In essence, he is saying ... You've treated me shabbily and you've hoped for my demise, but I'm back!
One of the lyrics: "They want to see that I fall, cause I'm Michael Jackson. You write the words to destroy like it's a weapon."
In another part of the song, Jackson sings: "Everybody wanting a piece of Michael Jackson. Reporters stalking the moves of Michael Jackson. Just when you thought he was done, he comes to give it again."
The song is vintage Jackson. The initial beat will remind you of "Billie Jean" and there are all sorts of MJ trademarks throughout.
When you hear it, you will not be able to suppress the image of Jackson dancing to the song.
The song was recorded at the home of music producer Eddie Cascio, when Michael Jackson was living there for four months in 2007.
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thank you all for posting the links, comments and videos above.
What happens here with Michael and his children and family is far beyond disgusting!!!!
THIS IS NOT MICHAEL´S WORK!!!
And I hope and wish the album will not sell!!! Interesting is that in Germany a so-called official fan club offers the fans to order the album already now. I am wondering WHO´S fan club this is ???? Surely not Michael´s.
The cover is full of bad symbolism - the message is clear!! I will go into this and want to post later what I see in there. Most disgusting part - though the whole cover is utmost disgusting in the message they put out is their alleged and imagined "victory " about Michael - is the decoronation of the king ( I wrote this in small letters as I want to set a message here too). See how he is looking there.
I will come back to this if it okay Bonnie. And Roxy I will answer you soon what I see in Michael´s hand sign in Smooth Criminal. All that Michael did in his whole body of work - whatever - has its meaning!! He never did something by chance.
HEAL THE WORLD!! Ute
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I completely agree. The "decoronation" symbolism is very strong here.
You may recall we have sensed this with the changes made to the short version of the "Smooth Criminal" video as well.
And the "This Is It" movie poster image. The message of the movie poster is very much different than the message of the O2 concert poster chosen by Michael.
You can see the O2 concert poster image at this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Is_It_(Michael_Jackson_concerts)
Note the symbolism of the O2 poster with Michael's classic pose where his index finger is pointing to direct our attention to something.
We can certainly understand with much more clarity, what is that "something" he was trying to show and communicate to us about, now that we have realized some of the truths behind the Music Industry.
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TJ Jackson, on twitter, pointed out the similarity between 'Michael's voice' on the new track and that of singer Jason Malachi...he think's it's Jason singing. He says: "There's many MJ vocal impersonators. Some better than others. But there is only ONE Michael Jackson. Deceptively merging shady vocals with MJ samples (from prior MJ records) will never fool me. Why they would ignore the obvious, look the other way and rush a suspicious track that was NEVER on my Uncle's radar is beyond me. I'm disgusted, disappointed and saddened. And before the media starts to smear our name, just remember we are COMMITTED (as our Uncle Michael always knew) to protect his name and his amazing legacy he worked his whole life for. We have nothing to gain and we know they will try to drag our name through the mud. But we know how much he valued his legacy and his fans. And cheating either is unacceptable. "Lies run sprints, but the truth runs marathons".
He then went onto say:
"Sounds like Jason Malachi to me too. The vibrato is a dead give away that it's not my uncle. Fans, I am so sorry you were put through this."
And then...."If you heard the acapella you would be even more disgusted. Sampled breaths after sampled breaths mixed in with fake vocals to try to fool u"
I've listened to Jason Malachi on YouTube, he does sing a lot like MJ. But then on some MJ tracks, like 2000 watts, he sings in a much deeper voice....maybe he was trying something new? Either way, the fact remains there's a reason these songs on the 'new' album were never released. MJ wasn't happy with them. So they shouldn't be released. Howver much we'd love to all hear new stuff is irrelevant.
I found this information while surfing the net. Here is what Jay Levanne had to say about the new album:
This is Levanne's personal opinion:
1. "It doesn't quite sound like Michael but then again who is to say it wasn't released the whole time he was alive because he had a cold or wasn’t himself when he recorded it so it was tossed aside on a shelf."
"MJ is such a legend with a voice so unique that it would not be impossible to get a proper soundalike to record in his stead. Out of any 1 million people, there can be up to 100 who will mimic Michael Jackson’s voice to a believable point. Even the dance too."
2."Forget sounding like Michael Jackson, another thing that struck me as pretty odd with this song is the fact that the "singer" called the name Michael Jackson too many times. This isn't Mike Jones or Gucci Mane we're talking about. The real MJ would never say his name even once on a track let alone 3 to 4 times in one verse. Making it appear as though the label (and/or singer) was trying too hard to convince someone of something."
I've been reading the boards regularly, and I find Michael's new song ' Breaking News' really disturbing. I truly think it is incomplete work that has few parts of Michael's vocals in it. I played the song to my sister and mum who agreed with me that it wasn't his voice most of the times - perhaps only a bit in the background.
However, I am really shocked at TMZ's voting poll, whereby 80% actually voted for YES, it was Michael's vocals. It is so disappointing! :/
I feel that there will be a struggle amongst fans - I have already seen some of my fan friends being adamant about buying the album be it Michael's voice or not. They are really determined on it, and feel that boycotting the album would lead the media and the world to think that Michael's fans are not supporting him anymore. Is there anyway to solve this at all? I feel torn with their options, but for one, I know I will not succumb to the album.
I don't think Michael would want us to listen to those tracks.. i'm afraid upcoming albums would ruin his legacy..I wish to do all I can to save it!!
I will comment later but wanted to share this song with you. It is from Michael´s HIStory album and is one of those songs in which he tells what " the system" is all about - MONEY!!
TMZ´s voting is a fake for me too. Their only focus is to sell THEIR album. This is ONE "CLUB" . With few parts in the background - as you said Light - THIS IS NOT MICHAEL´S VOICE!!!!! They also try to imitate Michael´s style - starting similar like "HISTORY - SONG". NOONE EVER CAN IMITATE MICHAEL´S STYLE TO 100% !!! It is like TJ said - there was and will be ONLY ONE MICHAEL JACKSON!!
If it was not so bad truth - I would say - this is simply ridiculous. They make themselves ridiculous. But it is a very sad and serious matter. I will come back later and write down my thoughts about it. There is a lot to settle down for me now :( . I will now post the song and the lyrics.
Something you should know about Money Lyrics
Title: Michael Jackson - Money lyrics
Artist: Michael Jackson Lyrics
Money. Money... Lie for it Spy for it Kill for it Die for it So you call it trust But I say it's just In the devil's game Of greed and lust They don't care They'd do me for the money They don't care They use me for the money So you go to church Read the Holy word In the scheme of life It's all absurd They don't care They'd kill for the money Do or dare The thrill for the money You're saluting the flag Your country trusts you Now you're wearing a badge You're called the "Just Few" And you're fighting the wars A soldier must do I'll never betray or deceive you my friend but... If you show me the cash Then I will take it If you tell me to cry Then I will fake it If you give me a hand Then I will shake it You'll do anything for money... Anything Anything Anything for money Would lie for you Would die for you Even sell my soul to the devil Anything Anything Anything for money Would lie for you Would die for you Even sell my soul to the devil Insurance? Where do your loyalties lie? Is that your alibi? I don't think so You don't care You'd do her for the money Say it's fair You sue her for the money Want your pot of gold Need the Midas touch Bet you sell your soul Cuz your God is such You don't careYou kill for the money Do or dareThe thrill for the money Are you infected with the same disease Of lust, gluttoney and greed? Then watch the ones With the biggest smiles The idle jabbers...Cuz they're the backstabbers If you know it's a lie Then you will swear it If you give it with guilt Then you will bear it If it's taking a chance Then you will dare it You'll do anything for money... Anything Anything Anything for money Would lie for you Would die for you Even sell my soul to the devil Anything Anything Anything for money Would lie for you Would die for you Even sell my soul to the devil Anything Anything Anything for money Would lie for you Would die for you Even sell my soul to the devil Anything Anything Anything for money Would lie for you Would die for you Even sell my soul to the devil You say you wouldn't do it For all the money in the world I don't think soIf you show me the man Then I will sell him If you ask me to lie Then I will tell him If you're dealing with God Then you will hell him You'll do anything for money Anything Anything Anything for money Would lie for you Would die for you Even sell my soul to the devil Even sell my soul to the devil Even sell my soul to the devil Even sell my soul to the devil Even sell my soul to the devil Even sell my soul to the devil Even sell my soul to the devil Even sell my soul to the devil
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TABLOID JUNKIE - lyrics Artist(Band):Michael Jackson
Speculate to break the one you hate Circulate the lie you confiscate Assassinate and mutilate As the hounding media in hysteria Who's the next for you to resurrect JFK exposed the CIA Truth be told the grassy knoll As the blackmail story in all your glory
It's slander You say it's not a sword But with your pen you torture men You'd crucify the Lord And you don't have to read it (read it) And you don't have to eat it (eat it) To buy it is to feed it (feed it) Then why do we keep foolin' ourselves
Just because you read it in a magazine Or see it on the TV screen Don't make it factual Though everybody wants to read all about it Just because you read it in a magazine Or see it on the TV screen Don't make it factual, actual They say he's homosexual
In the hood Frame him if you could Shoot to kill To blame him if you will If he dies sympathize Such false witnesses Damn self righteousness In the black Stab me in the back In the face To lie and shame the race Heroine and Marilyn As the headline stories of All your glory
It's slander With the words you use You're a parasite in black and white Do anything for news And you don't go and buy it (buy it) And they won't glorify it ('fy it) To read it sanctifies it ('fies it) Then why do we keep foolin' ourselves
Just because you read it in a magazine Or see it on the TV screen Don't make it factual (Everybody wants to read all about it) Just because you read it in a magazine Or see it on the TV screen Don't make it factual (See, but everybody wants to believe all about it)
Just because you read it in a magazine Or see it on the TV screen Don't make it factual (See, but everybody wants to believe all about it) Just because you read it in a magazine Or see it on the TV screen Don't make it factual, actual She's blonde and she's bisexual
Scandal With the words you use You're a parasite in black and white Do anything for news And you don't go and buy it (buy it) And they won't glorify it ('fy it) To read it sanctifies it ('fies it) Why do we keep foolin' ourselves Slander You say it's not a sin But with your pen you torture men Then why do we keep foolin' ourselves
Just because you read it in a magazine Or see it on the TV screen Don't make it factual (Though everybody wants to read all about it) Just because you read it in a magazine Or see it on the TV screen Don't make it factual (See, but everybody wants to read all about it)
Just because you read it in a magazine Or see it on the TV screen Don't make it factual Just because you read it in a magazine Or see it on the TV screen Don't make it factual Just because you read it in a magazine Or see it on the TV screen Don't make it factual, actual You're so damn disrespectable
MICHAEL, WE KNOW T H E T R U T H AND WE ARE HERE TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT!!
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Thought I'd post this article about the cover art:
Decoding The New Michael Jackson Album Cover Art (We're Almost There)
"We saw this cover and we almost couldn't help ourselves. At first it seemed weird that the cover of the first new posthumous album of unreleased material by Michael Jackson would be a collage of images taken from his old songs and albums. But then we got caught up in trying to figure out what every little thing on the cover was. Why are there policemen over there? Is that Bob Dylan? What's the deal with the UFO?
As Kanye West might say, it's not an album cover, it's a painting. And it actually is. The image on the cover of Michael is by an artist named Kadir Nelson, and it manages to incorporate an astonishing number of highlights from the golden age of Jackson's career, starting with 1979's Off the Wall and running through Dangerous in 1991.
Take a close look at the cover and join us after the jump for a guided tour of Michael's hall of mysteries..."
full article here: http://www.npr.org/blogs/therecord/2010/11/08/131177343/a-guide-to-almost-every-image-on-the-cover-of-michael-jackson-s-new-album
Last Edited by on Nov 09, 2010 10:08 AM
Michael Jackson Producer Teddy Riley Blames Singer’s Co-Executor for Bad Press
"Michael Jackson producer Teddy Riley called in to an Atlanta radio station last night and told as much as he could about the making of “Breaking News” and other new Jackson tracks. Among other things, Riley says Jackson estate co-executor John McClain “challenged” him on the recordings for the new album. “Now all of a sudden it’s not Michael’s voice because his [McClain's] songs didn’t make it.” Riley says McClain wanted him on the project just so his own name–McClain’s–would be associated with Riley’s. Yikes. Riley also revealed he hasn’t been paid for his work, still has no contract, and took just five hours to remix “Breaking News.” He also said that a Jackson duets album is in the works, mixing newer artists with old Jackson vocal performances. Move the cursor under the video to around 1:37 where the conversation gets interesting. Riley also says, enigmatically: “There’s been a conspiracy from A to Z.”
Irina. Excellent. I looked at this album cover for quite a while to check for cryptic messages. The Michael on the left doesn't look like MJ at all. Slanted eyes. Also, note the multiple hands on the cameras. Then there is the camera directed at the VIEWER of the artwork.
I'd like to get back to this thread to share my thoughts at a later time. All I have time for right now is to say that I will not purchase this album or any other future albums for the reasons I have previously stated in another thread.
I'll also state as someone who works in the motion picture industry and who has taken voice over classes and observed first hand how actors and sound mixers and engineers work in ADR, certain things don't add up here.
Sony didn't need to - allegedly - bring in a forensic specialist to identify Michael's voice or scream(s) on this album.
I agree. I posted this article about the cover art as a jumping off point.
There is a lot going on with symbolism in it that is hidden and expresses dominance over Michael.
It will be good to come back and explore the deeper meaning of the messages within this cover at a later point.
Regards, Irina
Addtl note: A good place to start with is the possible meaning of the Monarch Butterfly.
AND ONE MORE: To my eye Michael's facial expression in the center image is that of being very subdued.
All of the DOMINANT images of Michael on this cover are those of the way he looked prior to the period when he demonstrated that he SPIRITUALLY BROKE FREE of "the system", which was at the point when he released his Smooth Criminal video. I see no references to the post-Dangerous album period. Where are all of the other images and works? They are not represented here. I see it as suppression of that period of his life. There is however a reference to what followed in the years after the period represented on the cover in the form of two policemen at the top right side of the image.
Again this is based on my understanding and research.
The TIGER in the background has significant OCCULT meaning. You may recall Michael pictured with a Tiger Cub on the cover of Thriller. There is a progression from the cub TIGER, which to my understanding is SYMBOLLIC of an initiate, to the fully grown tiger as someone who has completed all rites.
I went back and re-checked and have revised my Tiger Symbolism comment above as what I was actually remembering were photos of Michael with a LION CUB at a later stage of his life. Here are some of those photographs taken of Michael from the Dangerous and History time frame with the LION CUB in the foreground.
Here is an interesting take on the OCCULT meaning of LION SYMBOLISM:
"LION: An ancient symbol of the sun, dominion, power, ferocity and bravery, the "king of the beasts" was often used on heraldic shields, flags or banners by medieval European rulers.
In Tarot cards, an occult system of divination based on the Kabala, it symbolized strength or power.
In ancient mythology it was identified with sun worship and the imagined power of both gods and godesses. The lion head ringed by its golden mane would used in ancient mystery initiations and ritualistic sun worship.
While pagan nations used it to represent their mythical views of reality, the lion was created by God. In the Bible, we see how He used it for His purposes."
http://www.crossroad.to/Books/symbols1.html
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A friend of mine, who is very up to date on Illuminati and the NWO, sent me this link in an e-mail today, and I thought I'd share it here for those who are interested. I'll share my own personal observations and impressions regarding the "Blood on the Dance Floor" album cover at a later time.
If you click on the link, you'll see some attached videos illustrating the points being made by the author.
Edited to Add: I've copied/ pasted the article here in case it disappears online. I didn't see any copyright restrictions on it that ask for it not to be reprinted.
~Carmen~
http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=5508
Since Michael Jackson’s untimely death, we have observed some rather insidious “tributes” to him, which, once decoded, were in fact thinly veiled references to his ritual sacrifice. His memory has indeed been hijacked by those who, in my humble opinion, killed him. This fact becomes obvious when looking at his posthumous releases. His latest album cover is another striking proof.
Sony Music (a company MJ spoke against – see this Vigilant Citizen article) is releasing a new album entitled Michael, which is said to contain some unreleased material. Here is the album cover:
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The cover depicts Michael at several stages of his career. There are also some interesting yet disturbing symbols.
Probably the most obvious and disturbing symbol is the Monarch Butterfly on his left shoulder, which represents in pop occult symbolism, Monarch programming, a form of trauma-based mind control. Many details about Michael Jackson’s life remain obscure. He is however a prime example of a young star being recruited by the Industry and most probably submitted to Monarch programming. In his last years however, MJ broke out from his control and even started to speak out against the evils of the industry. This breakout might explain his “mysterious” death.
*************** The Moonwalker Robot
Looming ominously at the top right side of the album cover is a MJ android with glowing red eyes. This is taken from Moonwalker, a movie produced during the height of Jackson controlled state, in which he turns, quite symbolically, into robot.
Regular readers might notice the similarity between this transformation and the one of Maria from Metropolis and many other pop stars under Illuminati control. In the context of the album cover, the presence of the android might be a references to his alter, programmed persona, in contrast with the “old MJ”, depicted at the opposite side of the album cover. Black and White/ Day and Night Duality
Michael is crowned by a Black and a White angel, alluding to the ritualistic nature of his crowning, an occult union of opposing forces. The same concept is exploited in Kanye West’s Runaway, where a big (and rather horrid) head of MJ is surrounded by black and white angels with gruesome faces.
*************** Scene from Kanye West’s Runaway. MJ’s head with a Black and a White angel, alluding to ritual sacrifice.
In a case of strange synchronicity, here’s Kanye’s cover art for “Power”:
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As we have seen in the article Kanye West’s “Power”: The Occult Meaning of its Symbols, this image probably refers to the “King Kill 33? Masonic ritual.
Was MJ’s ritual sacrificed planned? You might want to take a look at this album cover.
Michael Jackson wearing red (occultly refering to sacrifice) on a Masonic checkerboard pattern. The title “Blood on the Dancefloor” refers to MJ’s blood on the Masonic floor, the era on which rituals occur.
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I saw the Vigilant article as well. (Have not seen any of his articles disappear in the more than one year of looking at his site.)
However I opted out of posting it in this case as I do not subscribe to his interpretation of the varied stages of Michael's career being represented and the "Moonwalker" image within the new album cover; as well as the possible meaning he gives to "Blood on the Dancefloor" cover.
As I have mentioned above the career stages represented are only those up until pretty much the Bad era. There is a slight glimpse of Dangerous but the key elements of that image and period are cut off.
Concerning the latter mention of the Masonic floor detail and the use of the color Red- this floor pattern was prominently used in the "Ghosts" video as well. My observations tell me that Michael was communicating to us ABOUT the ritualistic practices behind the Industry as opposed to Vigilant's take on it, which paints Michael as a complete victim and someone who did not have any say in what his album cover would end up to be. To my understanding this was not the case with Michael if you consider his "Dangerous" and "History" album covers. They were definitely designed to expose.
I also found this article concerning the release of Black or White:
Michael Jackson's Black or White Blues "Michael Jackson's ''Black or White'' -- The 11-minute video is causing controversy and getting a lot of publicity"
There are some interesting points. One thing I noticed specifically is about how Michael got the message out : "Deadlines were so tight that ''Black or White'' was being edited until the day before it debuted, leaving the networks almost no time to review it before it aired..."
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,316363,00.html
As I see it Michael managed to stall the video release to the last minute in order to make sure that it does not get sensored before it gets out for the public to see. With all the hype generated around it at the time Michael pulled off showing the uncensored video to millions before they made him shorten it. Presuming the article is accurate it does speak volumes about the level of control Michael had.
As for Moonwalker, just a few notes for now. Michael's original Moonwalker Robot was a super hero who beat the bad guys and helped the children. I have already posted this before, but just want to bring it forth here as a reminder, about the new Smooth Criminal Radio Edit, which borrows heavily from Moonwalker, and which is steeped in Police State symbolism.
The Robot Image within the new album cover maybe related to this and to the heavily promoted "transhumanism" theme showing up in pop music videos and movies.
It may also be a reference to the allegations because Moonwalker was associated with the children theme.
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Well, we can agree to disagree, as there are numerous opinions and theories on this topic, as we can see. What I personally like about certain websites that cover this topic of Illuminati (especially in the music industry), is the objectivity and lack of emotion in their analysis. They - the authors - seem to have really done their homework and seem to be able to back up their statements and analysis with facts, not opinions or personal perceptions.
Speaking only for myself, I want facts, and I want the sources for those facts backed up with additional sources of information that can be traced and verified by additional reputable sources.
I strongly encourage those who are interested in this topic to think for themselves, peruse The Vigilant Citizen for themselves and decide for themselves what to think.
These are excellent articles for starters, and I love the fact that Michael Jackson is not the main focus or only subject; so many other Artists have been subjected to this, and The Vigilant Citizen covers a number of them. I find this helpful in terms of gaining a better understanding of the overall picture and getting background information on the occult and Illuminati symbolism in videos and music in general.
I'm very selective about my reading and the sources I turn to for valid information.
Warmly, Carmen
Kayne West "Power": http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=4576
Lady Gaga's "Telephone": http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=3423
5 Most Sinister Corporate Logos: http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=1160
Illuminati symbolism in former Disney girl Belinda's "Egoista": http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=4917
Edited to Add: Michael Jackson was not the only Artist to employ Egyptian symbolism within his music videos, as the Kayne West article clearly illustrates.
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I have been meaning to post this in response to the "Michael as robot" idea presented by Vigilant. Again I do not subscribe to it. I believe they tried, but in listening to Michael here, there is NO WAY they succeeded:
Excerpted from the video of Michael's speech at the 2002, Killer Thriller party: "...Sony...being the artist that I am ....they really thought that my mind is always on music and dancing...and it usually is. They never thought that this performer, myself, would out-think them."
and...
...from Michael's channeled sessions with Bonnie, dating 7/22/09 and 7/27/09 : “… Please tell my mother she did her job and I am more spiritual than she thought. She knows that I was forced to do things that I did not want to do. It’s very hard to be a famous person, especially in the music business. They think they own you. They want your soul. But I WOULD NOT GIVE THEM THAT. Please open your ears and listen again.”
(***and not just to this message but to much of his music and visuals as well)
As for the Egyptian Symbolism. Yes, it is being used by the System controlling not just the Music business but the Entertainment Industry on the whole (some here may want to Google "the cult of Isis" - some very interesting information; do note the word "Isis" embedded in the "THIS IS IT" title.)
And it is quite clear that the initiated artists are trained in using this symbolism and that by all appearances is how Michael has acquired this knowledge. Because of its occult nature the symbolism can be used not just for negative but for positive reasons as well, as has been demonstrated by Michael. (I am actually starting to notice some things along these lines going on with lyrics of some other artists and perhaps they are starting to follow in Michael's path.)
Here is another example of channeled information from Michael, as per Bonnie's post in the Music Industry Exposed thread:
-This is a cut and paste from the transcript dated 10/27/09: "Q: Can you tell me more about you fascination with Egypt? A: They were the keepers of secrets and had magical powers. I felt the same way. I used symbols and patterns in my work to let the secrets out. Some people will know exactly what I am referring to. When you live in a controlled environment you have to be very careful what you say and how you say it. The power over any man is his secrets. I used this for a good purpose to warn people, it was the only way I had to get the messages out. People would be wise to wake up and see what is going on right around them. You are being controlled and manipulated and you do not even know it."
Michael was kind enough to share some deeper insights about himself since he crossed over.
My opinion still stands as described above.
Operating on Instincts and our gut feelings are basic to human nature. This is exactly what the control system does NOT want the public to be able to do.
Sorry, I must agree to disagree here. :)
Edited to add: I will come back with some useful links at a later point. Good one to Google is the work and interviews of Jordan Maxwell as he covers all topics ranging from the breakdown of occult symbolism, to dissecting Hollywood, to Illuminati, etc.
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Speaking only for myself, I have decided to take the cost of the new album being released by Sony, including tax, and donate that dollar sum to a charity that either reminds me of Michael or that he worked with and donated resources to in the past. I posted this suggestion on the Sony site a while ago, and I think it's worth considering. Unicef and St. Judes have both sent me requests for donations recently, and I think I'm going to donate to at least one of them next month, and I'll do so mentioning Michael and his love for children.
My conscience is clear this way, and the money will go to a good cause rather than Sony's pockets (and those who took Michael). That's just my personal way of looking at this situation.
Each person must do what he or she feels is best. I will not judge fellow fans and supporters who choose a different path from mine. :)
Regarding "The Vigilant Citizen" article about the artwork and Illuminati symbolism within it, I am very impressed that you are doing research and really working hard to learn about this issue, Irina. I will have much of my own work to do in the coming months. Some of that includes reading books by David Icke and reading the intense amount of research on the Illuminati by Wes Penre. I consider both these men to be experts in this field, and I look forward to becoming much more enlightened about THEM and their symbolism in general.
I have my own perceptions and beliefs about Michael's involvement with the Illuminati, but I prefer to keep most if it to myself, at least for now. In the future, once I've learned a great deal more and have more to go by than just personal beliefs and perceptions, perhaps I'll come back to this topic and discuss it in more depth.
Your perceptions are what brought you here. Do keep in mind that what we have been taught from childhood via the bombardment of media fed opinion is not to do so. Please DO NOT be afraid to trust your intuition. It is our most powerful tool against the influence of conditioning.
All top pop artists are involved with the Illuminati. Michael was one of them. They all flash the hand signals, etc.
Michael was using the symbolism he was taught to embed messages about the system and their agenda in his work.
By studying Michael's life and actions and his body of work, from the time he became an independent artist, it is quite obvious that he was using his inside knowledge of the Illuminati agenda, which based on my research has a very specific, negative "spiritual" focus, to turn the world in the direction of love, unity and positive thought. But he had to do it in a very covert way in order to keep himself safe. If you look very closely you will see that Michael was using his inside knowledge to sway and influence the emotions of the people he was able to reach toward the positive.
Here are some more recent presentations from Project Camelot, which address the very topic of the bigger "spiritual agenda" behind the forces and influences that are at work all around us, and which I am convinced Michael was very aware of:
Project Camelot: Kerry Cassidy Live in Sedona : In Search of the Anunnaki http://projectcamelotproductions.com/interviews/kerry_sedona/kerry_in_sedona.html
And this one which is posted here by Bonnie as well: PROJECT CAMELOT iNTERVIEWS GRAHAM HANCOCK - Maestro http://projectcamelotproductions.com/interviews/graham_hancock/graham_hancock.html The latter part of he interview touches on this agenda as well as the Ancient Egyptian symbolism.
And so I am glad you decided to explore the topic of Illuminati and Illuminati related symbolism and agenda(s) further. As I have already mentioned, Jordan Maxwell is also an excellent source of information. He has put out some very good information way before these other guys have. In addition to David Icke and Wes Penre, here is another really good site to dig around in, which has pooled lots of information concerning the various topics we have been touching on here: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net
I like their mission statement: "It might be more comfortable to never make a mistake, than to miss many times. But better serve humanity, men and women that by hitting once, accept the drawbacks of a thousand mistakes..."
Happy Reading :) Irina
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Carmen, Irina - Thx for your comments Carmen, & Irina for shareing more info & websites to check out. You both make it so much easier for many of us, by posting the fruits of your thorough research on these topics for us. Much appreciated!!
Irina, While it's clear that Michael was using the symbols in his music & performances to get the msg's out, what is your educated opinion about the current pop artists, J-Z, Lady Gaga, Katie Perry, Beonce, etc? Do you feel they're using the symbols willingly for sinister purposes, forced to use them, or they using them in the way Michael did, which was to warn us of the those elements he was dealing with in the industry? Just wondering....
Love to all, Chaturi (signing off on another of my infamously 'brief' posts)
Happy Thanksgiving to you Bonnie & everyone here. You provide so much to be thankful for!!
Carmen, I really like your idea of donating the price of the album to charity. I will follow suit.
And I have few additional comments concerning our discussion above:
I am sure that we will converge on this topic as well just like we did on the situation with the circumstances around Michael's passing.
I think we are already in agreement that the entertainment industry is a major tool used to control the public on a very subliminal level.
You will learn much about the extent of the depth of control this group is exerting toward possessing humanity body and soul and the sphere of influence they exert both on a physical and spiritual levels.
Notice how much David Icke and Wes Penre stress that this is an "extra-dimensional" spiritual battle more than anything and has to be fought on that level.
And here are some excerpts from Michael's song lyrics to support my feelings above:
"ESCAPE" http://www.lyricsty.com/lyrics/m/michael_jackson/escape.html "...Every where I turn no matter where I look The systems in control it's all ran by the book I gotta get away so I can free my mind Escape is What I need (lectric') lectric eyes..."
(***remind anyone of the visuals in "BILLIE JEAN" video?)
from the "Dangerous" album:
"JAM" "...I Told My Brothers Don't You Ask Me For No Favors I'm Conditioned By The System Don't You Talk To Me Don't Scream And Shout She Pray To God, To Buddha Then She Sings A Talmud Song Confusions Contradict The Self Do We Know Right From Wrong I Just Want You To Recognize Me In The Temple You Can't Hurt Me I Found Peace Within Myself..."
"BLACK AND WHITE" "... I am tired of this devil I am tired of this stuff I am tired of this business..."
from "HIStory: Past, Present and Future, Book I":
"SCREAM" "...Peek in the shadow Come into the light You tell me I'm wrong Then you better prove you're right You're sellin out souls but I care about mine I've got to get stronger And I won't give up the fight (Michael) With such confusions don't it make you wanna scream You bash abusin victimize within the scheme (Janet) You try to cope with every lie they scrutinize (Both) Somebody please have mercy Cause I just can't take it Stop pressurin me Just stop pressurin me..."
"THIS TIME AROUND" http://www.lyricsty.com/lyrics/m/michael_jackson/this_time_around.html "...They thought they really had control of me He really thought he really had Control of me He really thought he really had They thought they really could control me...
...They really want to use me And then falsely accuse me This time around They'll take it like spit 'Cause you really can't control me
You know you can't control me..."
"2 BAD" "...Look who's standing if you please Though you tried to bring me to my knees...
...I'm right back where I wanna be I'm standin' though you're kickin' me..."
AND: "...I am here to remind you... 'They Don't Really Care About Us'..."
there are additional messages in "Thriller", "Ghosts" and "Blood on the Dancefloor" and of course "Smooth Criminal" as we have been discusing in the separate thread.
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All of the information I am posting about Michael has been stemming from this past year and half of research and observations. And there is still so much that it just keeps coming at me incessantly.
As to your question the answer is yes. I have been noticing some things to the effect of rebellion in other artists' lyrics so far. To name a few that I have come across would be Usher and Lil' Wayne. I have not had all that much time to look at others close up or at any of the videos as yet.
I will try to post some more details about this if I can at a later time. I encourage you to look and listen as well.
edited to add: Not sure about the artists you have named above. I have to examine all more closely. What are the imprints you are getting while looking at their visuals and hearing the lyrics?
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Yes, I can certainly read the 'rebellion' factor here. and of course would rather believe the others I mentioned previously who use the symbols, were also doing it to rebel & expose the dark forces, as opposed to being 'part' of it.
Learning more about symbols is on my list of things to do. Currently the 'must do's' are still running front & center to the 'want to do's, but I remain hopeful.
Very kind of you, Irina, for finding & shareing this in response to my question. Much appreciated!
The best way I can answer you at this time concerning the major music stars you name above and whether they are trying to counter the system in any way is to look at the total sum of their work.
In looking at Michael's work with symbolism it is good to keep in mind that both his lyrics and visuals intensely demonstrate that he was trying to get a message across. As Michael put it in his trance message "to let the secrets out".
The symbolism being used by the system is of Masonic origin. We know that it in turn was based on Ancient Egyptian mysticism and Ancient mystery schools on the whole; and that there are Magical connotations attached to it. It can be used either in a positive or negative way, depending on the intent of the user (Magician - recall the character Michael seemingly portrayed in "Remember the Time". It does seem to connect to his trance- channeled message and looks like it was auto-biographical, doesn't it?).
Michael was using the symbols because it was expected as part of the Music Industry's subversive process but also covertly with positive intent alongside many of his intensely personal lyrics.
One very good example of this are the original video and lyrics for "Scream". You may want to go back and watch the version I have posted below the "Quantum Leap" poem in the MICHAEL JACKSON'S LEGACY thread. Make sure not to miss the words "DECEIVE, INVEIGLE, OBFUSCATE" at video start. Most of the other versions of this video that are out there have this part trimmed off. It is obvious that Michael had a message to get across and part of the lyrics are posted above in this thread.
So it is this kind of details that would help decipher who is communicating something counter to the control system's agenda.
Hugs, Irina
Edited once more on 11/29/10: Just to be clear as far as I understand the reasons for the symbolism. To my understanding the symbolism is incorporated to make presence, allegiance AND INTENT known and the initiated artists are in the know of the reasons for it being there and are expected to be a part of the program.
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The writer of this blog pooled the credits from the "Michael" album and added some interesting observations. Thought I'd share:
Here is an excerpt:
"Breaking News
Written by Michael Jackson, Eddie Cascio, James Porte / Published by Mijac Music, Jab Me Music / Produced by Teddy Riley, Angelikson, Michael Jackson / Mixed by Jean-Marie Horvat, Teddy Riley / Programming and Finisher: Teddy Riley / Recording Engineer: Scott Elgin, Khaliq Glover AKA Khaliq-O-Vision, Stuart Brawley, Glen Marchese, Joe Corcoran, Drew Harris / Assistant Engineer: Quenton Gilkey / String Session Recording Engineer: Reggie Dozer / String Session Assistant Engineer: Brandon Datoli / Voiceover Engineers: Myron Chandler And Dave Hampton / String Session: The Benjamin Wright Orchestra / Arranged and Conducted By Benjamin Wright / Musicians: James Porte, Stuart Brawley, Eddie Cascio, Joe Corcoran / Voice Talents: Stuart Brawley, Sandy Orkin, Stacey Michaels, Michael Lefevre, Lisa Orkin / Voiceover Producer: Michael Lefevre
Ah! The “controversial” song! Let’s look at voice first . . . Musicians are listed as Porte, Brawley, Cascio and Corcoran. Voice Talents are Brawley, Orkin, Michaels and Michael Lefevre and Orkin. Voiceover Producer is Lefevre and voiceover engineers are Chandler and Hampton. There IS NO Michael here. None. Michael wrote it with Cascio and Porte but he is nowhere in the talent on this song. Riley however, is producer, mixer and programming and finisher.
Michael . . . where for art thou, Michael?"
Full article with Balance of credits for the album and comments from the writer can be found here: http://michaelsguardian.blogspot.com/
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Just wanted to post a link to an article I found in which the artist who painted the mural for the new album explains in his own words the meaning and symbolism behind his artwork. I don't have the means to copy/ paste the article using my work computer right now, but here's the link:
I get the impression the artist for the mural would disagree with all those who have dissected his artwork to find dark meanings and hidden or subtle Illuminati connections. Seems odd to me that he would bother to explain all this, but then again, I'm sure SONY and others involved in the album's release have observed many MJ fan boards and message boards, and they have noticed our collective discussions and comments. Is anyone here surprised about this interview and article coming out today?
Neither am I.
Is anyone here buying what he has to say, word for word, hook-line-and-sinker?
Just happened to pop in and saw this link. Of course you knew this would peak my curiosity.
SONY must be perusing the Vigilant Citizen site.
Why didn't they take a full frontal photo of the entire painting for this article? That does not seem honest.
Aside from all of the "clarifications" about the symbolism I am glad to learn that Michael's relationship with Madonna is on a par with the one he had with Liz Taylor. Interesting...
Still wonder what those police are doing lurking in the upper right hand corner of the image? Were they also critical to telling Michael Jackson's life story in a painting? Why didn't they cut that part off when they could not fit the whole image onto the cover?
Hmmm... not buying most of it...
Thanks for the link Carmen :)
Oh lets not forget the lack of info about the infamous and most visible "Monarch" Butterfly. Then again to some Monarch simply means King and so that works itself out, doesn't it?
Everything else is subjective but I would still save that Vigilant article for its alternative point of view and for posterity.
But just to be clear where I differ with Vigilant is that I do not see sacrifice depicted in the cover. Vigilant I feel is correct to observe a reference to this in Kanye West's "Runaway". "Runaway" appears to be also tinged with a right of passage symbolism. What I see in the cover are references to "control", to illumination, Illuminati, to Mystery school teachings, to magick/ magic, duality and secrecy.
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Here is a comment from one of the posters at this link which I think summed up the feelings this art conjures up: “There was only one Jesus, just like there was only one Michael Jackson. I have been inspired by his music, his songs and his dance. However I have been even more inspired by his humanitarianism, unselfishness, love for all people, no matter which race, religion or ethnicity they belonged to. And he was and still is loved by entire planet. He has inspired me to make some of the most difficult decisions im my life, and so far those were good decisions. Modern Jesus? No. One and only Michael Jackson? Yes. Similarity between these two extraordinary people is in the way they were treated. And yes, Michael as well was crucified. He was beeing killed slowly over the years, asking, screaming for help. Most of us did not listen. Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak minds", said Albert Einstein. This has never been so true as in the case of Michael Jackson...”
David LaChapelle created three images depicting Michael and I just thought them very interesting form an artistic perspective.
Here is more info about this exhibit: click on the links above to see all three images http://www.nowness.com/day/2010/7/17/800
(there are also other articles on the internet about this exhibit which may be of interest to some)
And the particular image I cite above certainly underscores the intent of Michael's message.
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Sorry about being away from the board for a while. I'll post when I can. I ran across an article written by Leslie Gray Streeter on Dec. 14 (yesterday) that I would like to share. I have heard some of the songs and agree with this analogy. Please copy and paste the URL below: POSTHUMOUS JACKSON ALBUM A GOOD, BUT NOT GREAT, EFFORT
And here is a posting by Karen Faye (from Twitter) which represents almost exactly what I feel and think: Karen Faye On Sunday 19th December 2010, @wingheart said:
Thank you Sandra RT @QuenchMyDesire: Okay. This album...I need to get what's in my head out. This will probably not even be read or heeded by many, but I need to word purge. I need to, or I'll explode.
Having left certain groups on Facebook a while ago that originally sounded great, but turned out to be the complete opposite of what I believe regarding certain issues and people, maybe I shouldn't be surprised that they are celebrating the release of this album. But, well...I am.
I know everyone is different but there is NOTHING to celebrate about this record. It's a product of greed, manipulation, corruption and selfishness, and it's basically just the continuation of the bullshit that was This Is It. Michael is DEAD, that is the ONLY reason this album exists. How can it be something to celebrate? HE is not here anymore so HE did not release this album. This is a Sony album, not a Michael Jackson one, and more than that, it's a slap in the face and an insult both to everything he stood for, as well as to those of us that see this for what it really is.
Michael's legacy does not stand and fall with this album; nor will it stand and fall with any future Sony releases. His legacy was created (and secured) BY HIM, decades ago. DECADES. His songs are timeless, he's Michael Jackson for God's sake. His philanthropy, his human rights work, his donations...they're all there, and they are set in stone. Any posthumous releases of any of "his" works (*cough*JasonMalachi*coughs*) will not change that. In any direction.
He shared his talent with us for forty years. It is naïve, and, to be honest, disrespectful to everything he achieved and gave us during those four decades to think that all of it would just disappear because we don't keep buying whatever is put out there and that has his name on it. HE did not release this album, so refraining from buying it will not hurt HIM.
I may come across as arrogant or as if I am telling people what to think and feel. This is not my intention, but to be honest, this isn't even a matter of "maybe" to me. We don't have to guess how he's feel about Sony getting the hands on these recordings because HE TOLD US! In case anyone forgot:
I honestly don't understand how people seem to forget the above so easily. Michael was clear BEYOND THE SHADOW OF A DOUBT how he felt about Sony, yet people are queueing up like lemmings outside the stores to get this album. Why would anyone want to do that when he told us so clearly how he felt?
The general public not knowing - or caring - about the Sony feud is one thing, but the fans? We were supposed to stand by him. He was supposed to be able to trust us.
I'm completely amazed by how so many of the people that I managed to sort of 'open up the eyes of' (regarding TINI and everything around what possibly happened in Michel's last time alive that is so suspicious and contradictive) are now running to the store to get the album, the DVD boxset, AND the game. Hello?? Have people not been listening?! This is exactly the same! This album is a continuation to all the vile, grotesque, corrupt bullshit that "This is it" was about, how can people not see that?? We would never have had this album if Michael was still alive, and he would never, EVER have let them near his art again. He TOLD us that!
This record is a bribe. It was released to keep the general public happy so that they can listen to 'new' songs from Michael Jackson the superstar, while they continue covering up the murder of Michael Jackson the man. In the meantime, his family and friends are still struggling every single day to come to terms with the void that was left in their lives the day he was taken from them. They have to sit there, time after time after time, in the same room as one of the men that murdered their brother, son, friend, or mentor, and they have to wake up to a world without someone whose energy was so vibrant you could feel it physically, but that is now gone. Gone, only to leave a deafening silence in a world that was once filled with his laughter and his tears. So forgive me if I'm having a little bit of a hard time finding a reason to celebrate.
Whatever Sony decides to release in his name in the future will have nothing to do with Michael's legacy, and everything to do with money. Lie for it, spy for it, kill for it...die for it.
He died for it. When will we stop making it worth it for the people that took his life? (from http://tl.gd/7j234c)
---------- "...be alive, be free, feel consciousness, subsciousness, being GOD..." MJ
This is very close to what Michael has been communicating to me. It would appear that Karen is also mortified and in exactly the same ways.
Michael is also highly concerned about his children being relocated due to the "renovation" of the Encino house. The timing is very strange with January 4th right around the corner.
He had hoped that the Chasen case would bring some truth forward but it seems to have been swept away as well. I have no idea how these magicians make these things disappear but you have to have help in high places.
Will.i.am’s ‘Respectful Disagreement’ Over Michael Jackson’s New Album
At the 2010 American Music Awards, Will.i.am talks with Access’ Shaun Robinson about the upcoming release of Michael Jackson’s new album and his “respectful disagreement” with Akon regarding the album. Also, Fergie weighs in on their argument.
Posthumous Jackson Album Sells 3M Units Worldwide
Michael Jackson is the King of Pop, but he’s being challenged by the current queens of music. Taylor Swift’s album “Speak Now” is No. 1 on the Billboard 200 albums chart this week, followed by Susan Boyle’s “The Gift.” Their albums got in the way of Jackson’s first posthumous album, “Michael,” hitting the top spot.
According to Nielsen SoundScan, “Speak Now” sold 259,000 units and “The Gift” 254,000 units. Jackson’s album debuted at No. 3 with 228,000 copies sold. Though he’s not No. 1, Jackson’s album sold more than 3 million units worldwide. “Michael” debuted at No. 1 in Germany, Italy, Sweden and the Netherlands. It also made its way to the Top 5 in the United Kingdom, Japan, France, Belgium and Denmark.
The URL below is not a video about his new album, but shows how Michael was no longer in control of the business decisions that were made in his life. Similar to what is happening now with his album.
Truth and Justice for Michael Jackson:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqZ3aqYGHK8&NR=1
Fans were trying to help then also. It is sad that Michael's death did not stop the "greed" and the little piece of Michael that everyone is still trying to make money off of.
Before Christmas I had suggested to some younger "fans" that if a person wanted to show support for Michael, buy Invincible, the album Sony chose not to promote. Let's just say they weren't pleased. You would have thought I asked them sell their first born. I don't know where the disconnect is between what Michael said about Sony while he was alive, and what is happening now. It's so twisted. I am hoping that this trail follows the money. But I have a feeling the DA will take it just so far, so as not to involve any higher ups whose motives may be tainted or colored by a lovely shade of $green$.
Not very many people are paying attention. Sadly this type of activity is why the country is in trouble. It is called the Golden Rule...those with the gold, rule.
I had hoped that since Michael has millions of fans this would have been used as an example of what needs fixing for all of us. It seems it is now acceptable to lie, cheat and steal. Good people look away and go along to get along. This has got to stop for all of our sakes.
Many of Michael's fans are being manipulated emotionally, blackmailed emotionally, and some are still in a state of denial about some things. Some people cannot or do not want to see what is going on. To see means having to accept responsibility for what is happening by taking some form of action.
The people in power at the top of the chain must come down before any real progress can be made, not just as pertains to Michael Jackson but in general.
A denial was made by Jason Malachi and his manager regarding Malachi making the claim that he sang on the album, “Michael.” The following article was posted online around January 16, 2011.
The internet was abuzz when Michael Jackson fans read statements made on the alleged Facebook page of Jason Malachi. Malachi allegedly took to Facebook to tell the world that he sang on the newly released Michael Jackson album, Michael. According to new reports today, Malachi's manager says that the statements made are false, and that a hacker created a fake Facebook page for Malachi and has been making false comments.
As TMZ reports, Malachi's manager, Thad Nauden said that a hacker created the page, and has made the controversial comments, which Nauden says are false. Malachi took to his official MySpace page to say: "I have NOT made any of those statements that the facebook hacker is posting!!!!!!"
The controversy started when an alleged Jason Malachi Facebook page became active, and the alleged hacker started making comments, saying that it was Malachi who was singing on several of the tracks on the Michael album, and that he wanted to come clean and apologize to Michael Jackson fans. From the beginning, the new album has been met with mixed reactions, and it would seem that the alleged hacker -- playing off of this reality -- has decided to make the controversial comments.
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I wondered how far and for how long this stunt would go before Sony and other powers made certain it got straightened out. Even if the story were true and Malachi really DID sing on the album, he'd have to be out of his mind to openly and publicly admit it, considering the high stakes of this album and any upcoming future Michael Jackson releases.
